Rolling Stones - Brussels Affair 1973 - What's the story ?

Haven't had a chance to do thorough listening comparison yet but here's the Dynamic range values for the new Brussels Affair included in the Japanese Marquee set and the official download from a couple years ago:

DR values for Brussels Affair CD's included in the Japanese Marquee set:
foobar2000 1.3.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-06-13 10:21:15
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Analyzed: ? / ?
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR7 0.00 dB -8.13 dB 3:56 ?-01 Brown Sugar
DR7 0.00 dB -8.67 dB 5:33 ?-02 Gimme Shelter
DR7 0.00 dB -7.90 dB 3:14 ?-03 Happy
DR7 0.00 dB -8.42 dB 5:04 ?-04 Tumbling Dice
DR7 -0.03 dB -7.53 dB 4:16 ?-05 Star Star
DR7 0.00 dB -8.05 dB 4:38 ?-06 Dancing With Mr. D
DR7 0.00 dB -7.98 dB 5:03 ?-07 Doo Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker)
DR8 0.00 dB -9.95 dB 5:00 ?-08 Angie
DR7 0.00 dB -8.24 dB 11:19 ?-09 You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR6 0.00 dB -7.72 dB 12:53 ?-10 Midnight Rambler
DR6 0.00 dB -7.19 dB 3:12 ?-11 Honky Tonk Women
DR6 0.00 dB -7.04 dB 4:21 ?-12 All Down The Line
DR6 0.00 dB -7.26 dB 2:25 ?-13 Rip This Joint
DR5 0.00 dB -6.19 dB 3:27 ?-14 Jumping Jack Flash
DR5 0.00 dB -6.05 dB 5:15 ?-15 Street Fighting Man
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Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR7
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1411 kbps
Codec: PCM
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DR values for Brussels Affair official download from a couple years back:
foobar2000 1.3.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-06-13 10:20:09
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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / The Brussels Affair
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -0.17 dB -11.70 dB 3:56 01-Brown Sugar
DR10 0.00 dB -11.76 dB 5:33 02-Gimme Shelter
DR10 0.00 dB -11.12 dB 3:14 03-Happy
DR10 0.00 dB -11.45 dB 5:04 04-Tumbling Dice
DR10 0.00 dB -10.34 dB 4:16 05-Star Star
DR10 0.00 dB -11.20 dB 4:38 06-Dancing With Mr. D
DR9 0.00 dB -10.42 dB 5:03 07-Doo Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker)
DR11 0.00 dB -13.17 dB 5:15 08-Angie
DR10 0.00 dB -11.19 dB 11:00 09-You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR10 0.00 dB -11.12 dB 12:53 10-Midnight Rambler
DR9 0.00 dB -10.18 dB 3:12 11-Honky Tonk Women
DR9 0.00 dB -10.22 dB 4:21 12-All Down The Line
DR9 0.00 dB -10.24 dB 2:25 13-Rip This Joint
DR9 0.00 dB -9.69 dB 3:27 14-Jumping Jack Flash
DR9 0.00 dB -9.64 dB 5:15 15-Street Fighting Man
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Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR10
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 965 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Question is why, why?

 

I'm hoping for an official physical release by itself. If not, I still have my less than legal version.

 

So is the flac download on the stones archive web site here http://www.stonesarchivestore.com/Product.aspx?cp=53655_53698&pc=BGDDRS69
the new DR7 or the old DR10 value?

 

DR10

 

I asked this question in another thread, but does anyone know what the DR values are for the CDs that were released in the big, limited-edition Brussels box set? Same as the official FLAC download?

 

Sure. I just received this big box (from Amazon.com that offered some limited quantities recently).

Surprise, surpise >> the japanese recent cds have exaclty the same DR values as the super extra box (2012) !!! , unlike the DRs values of the Downloads are more dynamic from both:

foobar2000 1.2.9 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-06-26 18:51:04

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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Brussels Affair [Bravado signed set]
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR7 0.00 dB -8.13 dB 3:56 01-Brown Sugar
DR7 0.00 dB -8.67 dB 5:33 02-Gimme Shelter
DR7 0.00 dB -7.90 dB 3:14 03-Happy
DR7 0.00 dB -8.42 dB 5:04 04-Tumbling Dice
DR7 -0.03 dB -7.53 dB 4:16 05-Star Star
DR7 0.00 dB -8.05 dB 4:38 06-Dancing With Mr D
DR7 0.00 dB -7.98 dB 5:03 07-Doo Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker)
DR8 0.00 dB -9.95 dB 5:00 08-Angie
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Number of tracks: 8
Official DR value: DR7

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 913 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Analyzed: Unknown artist / ?
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR7 0.00 dB -8.24 dB 11:19 01-You Cant Always Get What You Want
DR6 0.00 dB -7.72 dB 12:53 02-Midnight Rambler
DR6 0.00 dB -7.19 dB 3:12 03-Honky Tonk Women
DR6 0.00 dB -7.04 dB 4:21 04-All Down The Line
DR6 0.00 dB -7.26 dB 2:25 05-Rip This Joint
DR5 0.00 dB -6.19 dB 3:27 06-Jumping Jack Flash
DR5 0.00 dB -6.05 dB 5:15 07-Street Fighting Man
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Number of tracks: 7
Official DR value: DR6

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1020 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Brown Sugar 2011 download



Brown Sugar 2015 Japanese 2CD

 

Opss! Sad, really compressed

 

The Cds certainly have a poor DR and compressed sound.On teh other side; the presentation in these fatboy cases is quite practical and I should add that the overall pack is very well made. The interior book does not have enough information (at least in English), but it's the only physical release (in addition to the expensive box "Brussles Affair '73) ... I imagine that soon We will see a release on vinyl and cd that is not conditioned by that of "Limited edition "

 

That link now reads "Sold Out". How in the heck does a download sell out?

 

The promise of the Internet!

Mark

 

I'd love to hear the official release of Brussels. I couldn't afford the Japanese Marquee set, and the download isn't available in the US anymore. I guess that old saying is right, "ya snooze, ya lose."

The bootleg is okay, but the placement of the guitars in the soundstage is all over the place.

 

I personally think Brussels 73 is the best live Stones you can get....better than Ya Yas, better than Live in LA 75, just the best.

if they wanna charge so much for it they cant be surprised if people find a way to 'obtain' it other ways

 

I'm spinning this right now. Mick Taylor.... Oh my.

 

Certain portions of the bootleg are now being blocked on YouTube.

 

There are rumours circulating that Brussels Affair is going to be released on its own in some format next year - DVD ?

 

That certainly is a good sign...

Man...how can it be released on DVD if there is no video for the show????

 

I have the box, and the vinyl is far superior to the CD's. They really shouldn't release that mastering.

 

So any news on when the vinyl set of this will be released? Folks will be lining up for that one! I did buy the download for around $6 and it sounds nice but vinyl is needed for a masterpiece such as this!

 

Maybe they are holding it back for a Super Deluxe version of Goats Head Soup.

 

It definitely wasn't filmed? If not reasonably priced audio will be fine!

 

This would be amazing, my fav Stones 70's album, just hope it's not the same size as the Brussels affair box !

 

Goats head deluxe? Is this a real thing.

 

Is it pretty safe to say the downloads sound better than the Cd's across the board?