Rush Album by Album, Song By Song

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  1. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Nocturne

    songfacts
    Geddy Lee, Rockline, May 13, 2002: "Nocturne was one of the later songs that we wrote for the record after the break that we had. There was a group of about 5 or 6 songs that came from a two week period of just what I would consider the best jams Alex and I have ever had. I really love this song, I love the drum pattern, especially the way it starts. Its kind of about the questions you can subconsciously answer in your dreams without realizing it." >>


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    We open with a nice drum pattern laying the foundation and then we get a solid raw guitar pattern, this gives way to the bass, with a little distortion on it, and the vocals come in.

    Did I have a dream?
    Or did the dream have me?
    Did I have a dream?
    Or did the dream have me?

    Set off on a night-sea journey
    Without memory or desire
    Drifting through lost latitudes
    With no compass and no chart

    Flying through hallucination
    Distant voices, signal fires
    Lighting up my unconscious
    And the secret places of the heart

    Dream temporary madness
    Dream a voice in the wilderness
    Dream unconscious revelations
    The morning says, the answer is yes

    Did I have a dream?
    Or did the dream have me?
    Did I have a dream?
    Or did the dream have me?

    Floating through a darkened mirror
    Deep reflections in disguise
    Soaring through lost altitudes
    Without wonder, without fear

    Symbols on a field of visions
    Behind the curtain of sleeping eyes
    On the instant of waking
    Another world of dreams appears

    Dream temporary madness
    Dream a walk in the wilderness
    Dream unconscious recreation
    The morning says the answer is yes

    Dream temporary madness
    Dream a voice in the wilderness
    Dream unconscious revelations
    The morning says, the answer is yes
    The morning says, the answer is yes

    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Alex Lifeson / Geddy Lee Weinrib / Neil Peart
    Nocturne (2013 Remixed Audio) lyrics © Ole Media Management Lp

    This seems to be, lyrically, Neil describing his kind of lost in the wilderness feeling. I think it expresses itself well enough.

    I like this track, but it is probably in some ways a slightly weaker track for me.
    We get the dynamic hard section and quiet section again, probably my favourite section though is about three quarters of the way through with the little guitar riff turning around on itself against the beat.

    I enjoy this, but it is a slightly lesser track.... perhaps by this stage of the album I am waiting for the big finish.

     
  2. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Nocturne Remix

    It seems like the bass is more defined in the opening section, and Geddy's vocal seems a little clearer at the start.
    Again this is just on the computer, so merely fleeting observations.
    To some degree in the instrumental section there seems to be a broader soundstage and I find that section more effective in the remix.

     
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  3. Megastroth

    Megastroth Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Nocturne
    This song starts off really cool. The "Did I have a dream/ or did the dream have me?" is a really cool lyric and makes for a very catchy vocal line. Unfortunately, the "harsh" portion of the song is a little too harsh and borders on a mess. Then the chorus kicks in, which still sounds pretty sloppy but a bit more melodic. Overall, I feel like there are some really cool ideas with this song but the transitions are too rough. It sounds like it was put together pretty quickly and maybe it needed a little more work on certain sections. Its not bad, but I feel like it could have been better. It's rare that a Rush song comes off as half-baked, but this one does.
     
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  4. Al Gator

    Al Gator You can call me Al

    Nocturne is another track where I like the lyrics which explore the dreamworld and the realworld (especially as it can seem like a dream). But unlike most of Neil's lyrics, they don't sound as good sung as they appear on (virtual) paper. Musically it's middle-of-the-road latter-day Rush for me. The result is a below-average track.
     
  5. Claus

    Claus Senior Member

    Location:
    Germany
    Nocturne is the best song on VT IMO.

    Why? Because almost all other songs are so predictable.
     
  6. The MEZ

    The MEZ Forum Resident

    Location:
    CT
    Sweet Miracle 2.75/5
    Nocturne 2/5
     
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  7. dirkster

    dirkster Senior Member

    Location:
    McKinney, TX, USA
    Nocturne

    I rather like this one. I need to crank it up to the max this afternoon and give it some more proper listening. Somehow I haven’t heard this one much yet even though I’ve been listening to the album on/off for two weeks. A provisional “thumbs up”.
     
  8. Megastroth

    Megastroth Forum Resident

    Location:
    CT
    Quick thought....the drum intro to Nocturne reminds me of Shakin' by Eddie Money.
     
  9. dirkster

    dirkster Senior Member

    Location:
    McKinney, TX, USA
    perhaps! I also think of Van Halen’s “Everybody Wants Some” when I hear this intro.
     
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  10. Fischman

    Fischman RockMonster, ClassicalMaster, and JazzMeister

    Location:
    New Mexico
    Nocturne

    It was noted earlier that there's a sameness pervading this album that maybe lets it wear out its welcome before sometime before the album ends. Now's about when I reach that point. It could easily have been earlier, but even with a sort of sameness of sound and structure, the previous few songs had something really unique somewhere under the surface to hold my interest. This one doesn't quite get there. Lyrically, I feel like this is one of those songs where Neil had something to say and got off to a good start, but couldn't quite bring it home. Playlist: no. Skip: maybe.
     
  11. dirkster

    dirkster Senior Member

    Location:
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    Nocturne

    I’m with Claus on this one:

    It really does have a different thing about it. The bass line carries an edgy momentum throughout the song, and the louder crazy parts add some different dynamics that are missing elsewhere on the album. The transition period starting at 3:15 does a great job of setting up the final frenetic bit at 3:54. Are those screams or just guitar sounds that I hear in that final section? Wow. I definitely like this song. Not the “best” on the album for me, but it’s darn good.
     
  12. robcar

    robcar Forum Resident

    Location:
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    I like the lyrics to "Nocturne" but, as with "Sweet Miracle", the music doesn't interest me all that much. The drum pattern is interesting, but the melody isn't really there. I think, again, the length of the album does a track like this one no favors given its position in the album running order. To me, this lyric is about Neil's motorcycle journey and the emotions he experienced while in the midst of it. I prefer the remix for the usual reason - a bigger, more cinematic soundstage. This works particularly well with this lyric. However, it also highlights Geddy's lead vocal, which isn't one of his best. The remix seems less abrasive than the original version. This is a song that I think would have benefitted from the addition of keyboards. It just needs something to give it melodic lift. As it is, it just seems like a few repeated riffs over and over, none of them particularly hummable.

    The morning says: The Answer is Yes is a great line.
     
  13. Flaevius

    Flaevius Left of the dial

    Location:
    Newcastle, UK
    Sweet Miracle: on an album with little brevity, this track works really well for me. Both in its shorter length and its simplicity. It is no fuss, no frills, and has a strong - dare I say it - sing-a-long quality to it. Enough driving riffing to keep it moving, whilst Geddy is throwing all sorts of melancholy at the vocal.

    Nocturne: a lower album track. The intro with the sound effects is good but Geddy's vocal seems to lack quality and the frenzied section is both too harsh and lacking in any real musicality. The section Mark mentioned is nice, but Geddy's harmony directly afterwards doesn't work at all - it sounds like he's had one too many vodkas and is three sheets to the wind. A flawed, incomplete track really.
     
  14. HenryH

    HenryH Miserable Git

    "Secret Touch"

    For me, this has become something of a Rush standard. Heard it live numerous times, and I just really like the song in general.

    It starts out with a very cool, swaggering intro on bass and percussion as Geddy's vocal steps forward...and then the band lays into it. I do like those pulses during the heavy bits; they have a bit of that classic Rush vibe. But the original mix can be a bit harsh. Still, overall it comes across as a pretty decent workout by the trio. The brief instrumental which closes out the song is a classic Rush moment...makes me want to transform into the spirit of Neil Peart.
     
  15. HenryH

    HenryH Miserable Git

    "Earthshine"

    Damn, another classic track for me.

    That intro just digs into subterranean levels. I love Alex's guitar on this one; that fat, melodic sound really makes this track. Too bad about the original mix, which adds a shade of harshness to the more complex sections. But overall, it's still a great song, and as far I'm concerned that's all that needs to make it work.
     
  16. HenryH

    HenryH Miserable Git

    "Sweet Miracle"

    Yeah, it rocks right out of the gates, yet, it's not an over the top, in your face type of composition. This one has a lot of subtlety and finesse about it. There's a sense of hope to Neil's lyric. The overall sound has solidity. Really good track.
     
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  17. HenryH

    HenryH Miserable Git

    "Nocturne"

    Oh yeah, this is the real deal. Love the intro, and Geddy's vocal has an ease about it. Alex's guitar has a nice texture. Once again, that original mix takes away some of the nuance of the chorus, but I still enjoy this piece. Neil's drum fills have a kind of exploratory sense to them. Despite the recording/engineering flaws, I still like this one a lot.
     
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  18. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Freeze (pt IV of Fear)

    songfacts
    This is part IV of the "Fear Trilogy" (making it no longer a trilogy) which is also made up of the songs "The Enemy Within" (Part I from Grace Under Pressure), "The Weapon" (Part II from Signals), and "Witch Hunt" (Part III from Moving Pictures). >>


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    Essentially that just gives us a reminder of what the original Fear trilogy was..... I assume that down the track and in relation to his feelings regarding all the radical changes in his life, Part IV just brought itself out of that scenario.

    The city crouches, steaming
    In the early morning half light
    The sun is still a rumor
    And the night is still a threat

    Slipping through the dark streets
    And the echoes and the shadows
    Something stirs behind me
    And my palms begin to sweat

    Sometimes I freeze, until the light comes
    Sometimes I fly, into the night
    Sometimes I fight, against the darkness
    Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right

    Coiled for the spring
    Caught like a creature in the headlights
    Into a desperate panic
    Or a tempest of blind fury
    Like a cornered beast
    Or a conquering hero

    The menace threatens, closing
    And I'm frozen in the shadows
    I'm not prepared to run away
    And I'm not prepared to fight

    I can't stand to reason
    Or surrender to a reflex
    I will trust my instincts
    Or surrender to my fright

    Sometimes we freeze, until the light comes
    Sometimes we're wrong, and sometimes we're right
    Sometimes we fight, against the darkness
    Sometimes we fly, into the night

    Blood running cold
    Mind going down into a dark night
    Of a desperate panic
    Or a tempest of blind fury
    Like a cornered beast
    Or a conquering hero

    Sometimes I freeze
    Sometimes I fight

    Sometimes I freeze, until the light comes
    Sometimes I fly, into the night
    Into the night
    Into the night

    Source: LyricFind
    Songwriters: Alex Lifeson / Geddy Lee / Neil Peart
    Freeze Part Iv Of "Fear" lyrics © Ole Media Management Lp

    People often refer to Fight or Flight, but always miss off Freeze ... In that little saying, it really needs to be Fight, Flight or Freeze, because they are the three natural reactions that people actually have.
    I think the majority of folks only generally have the freeze reaction in bad dreams. The number of folks I have spoken to that have dreams where something horrendous is happening and they freeze, or can't speak/call out or whatever is remarkable.... but one assumes that it happens in real life also, and that is what this song deals with.

    Lyrically this is indirectly linked to the scenario in Neil's life... and the thoughts regarding being in the night, in the dark, can readily be translated into being at home, rather than the city..... During the day we are generally surrounded by activity, and so any of those lingering pains/doubts/troubles tend to be slightly less overbearing, but in the night when things are somewhat quiet, the mind goes into overdrive. Particularly when one has been used to living with someone and all of a sudden we are left alone, and particularly in the circumstances Neil was in, the mind is left completely naked to its own wanderings.... and to some degree I can see the thoughts here coming directly from that.
    But essentially here we have a situation where we are on a dark and lonely street in the city at night, and there is an impending danger apparent, but not yet revealed, and this is about that freeze nature in that situation. It seems to be lyrically disconnected from the other songs in some ways, but I think it is an extension on them in some ways, as per my wandering thoughts up there .... anyway.

    We open with a nice bass and drum theme, and we get an harmonic guitar theme come in. It manages to have a sort of ominous sound to it, that suits the lyrics. Then we burst into a lone guitar doing that staccato rhythm, that has a sense of anxiety and disconnectedness.
    The basic musical theme of this track is fairly consistent, but we get subtle variations to wander along with.
    At 1:42 we move into a relief passage, and the music opens up, and we have a sort of reflective section, this smoothly flows back into the staccato section.
    Again in this track we get the doubled Geddy vocal in sections, that has an unusual, and kind of unsettling harmony vocal.
    We get the relief section again and this moves into a nice alternate kind of drum beat under the reintroduced staccato section, and then we burst into a kind of frantic guitar and some Geddy hollering with reverb in the background and we move into the panic riddled crescendo ..... and then we move into the chorus again .... I kind of feel like the panic riddled crescendo may have been a better place to end the song.

    I like this track, I think it is very effective in its message/music usage.
    I think it works really well as a song.
    I think it is slightly too long for its own good, but I am not going to skip it.


     
  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Freeze Remix

    It sounds a little cleaner..... It sounds fine, but I think to some degree that anxiety riddled edge is (just slightly) lost.
    I'm more of a song, than a sound guy, so this part is the most difficult for me to really look at.
    Again I think the original mix, for all its flaws captures the anxiety, and fear better in its claustrophobic kind of mix ....
    Either way, I definitely feel like the song would have been more effective if it finished up in that p[ost instrumental crescendo of panic and anxiety....

     
  20. HenryH

    HenryH Miserable Git

    " Freeze Part IV Of "Fear" "

    Nice rumble to the start of this, but I'm not sure if this really carries though to the rest of the track. The chorus adds an interesting, open sound to the song, though it doesn't seem to play out well to the whole, as if there is a kind of disjointed mood. Some pretty good guitar motifs, and the drums are pretty solid, but I'm not quite sure if the song works overall. Good, but not memorable.
     
  21. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

  22. Megastroth

    Megastroth Forum Resident

    Location:
    CT
    Freeze
    This one doesn't really come together for me. Reading through the lyrics I do see that they created music that purposely feels disjointed and uncomfortable, reflecting what the narrator describes. The rhyme scheme in particular is tough on the listener, as the couplets are far apart. I think Geddy had a tough time working out a melodic vocal line for this one and maybe they needed to rework parts to make them smoother and less forced. I feel like the overall rhythm and guitar tone is pretty out there. I would call this the most experimental track on the album. Vapor Trails is a pretty consistent album and this is the probably the worst track on it for my taste.
     
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  23. Fischman

    Fischman RockMonster, ClassicalMaster, and JazzMeister

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    New Mexico
    Freeze

    Sometimes this one seems like a bit of a jumbled mess.... and sometimes that jumble seems the perfect way to express the mood and message of the song. It's all herky-jerky, which can be a rather apt description of the whole fight/flight/freeze battle. In the end, I have to say the song is very good at what it does... I'm just not always that keen on what it does, no matter how well it does it. Good song, but pretty mood dependent for me as to whether I'm going to get something out of it.

    I agree that the remix cleans it up too much, and remove some of the edge that makes the song so good at what it does.
     
  24. The MEZ

    The MEZ Forum Resident

    Location:
    CT
    Freeze 2.5/5
     
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  25. Claus

    Claus Senior Member

    Location:
    Germany
    Freeze... skip
     
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