Should I turn my small office into a closed listening space? need suggestions...

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Phono Groove, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:55 AM.

  1. Phono Groove

    Phono Groove Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    I have a small office that is 9.5 feet x 8 feet wide with 8 foot ceiling. My system resides in the living room in a much larger space but I have decided to convert my living room in a play area for my daughter ( she needs the space and my hi fi is taking most of it ) In this office as you can see I have a desk computer, guitars and media collection all stored there. I was thinking of removing the ikea record rack on the left and the large desk + computer on the right to make extra space. Basically, I would be removing everything on each side and keeping the cd racks in the back as they are. Where the window is located I would place my hi fi ( TV, amp, turntable, cdplayer / dac ). My listening position would be where the chair is located in the picture which would be 5.5 feet away and speakers 4.5 feet appart. I have KEF LS50 speakers, would it be worth having a system in such a small space, will it sound any good in such a tight space? Here are some pictures of what it looks like now :

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  2. pdxway

    pdxway Forum Resident

    Location:
    Oregon, USA
    If all you are using is LS50 and you are OK with it in larger space, then in such small office it should work just fine. In fact, I have LS50 in my bedroom and sitting close to it and listen to it in pure stereo sounds just fine. Not as good as my current living room setup, but it works fine.
     
  3. action pact

    action pact Forum Resident

    It will work fine. Many prefer a diagonal configuration in small, square-ish rooms.

    Consider adding some room treatments to control reflections in such a tight space. That made a huge difference when I was in an 8 x 12 room.

    Adding a rug wouldn't be a bad idea either.
     
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  4. Slimwhit33

    Slimwhit33 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Orange County NY
    My room is small as well (10x10x9) and I use a set of Heresy III's sitting about 6 feet away.. sounds amazing. I do have bass traps in each corner and 3 inch absorbers at all first reflection points.
     
  5. Art K

    Art K Forum Resident

    Location:
    Corvallis, Oregon
    I made a similar decision a while back. I am quite happy with my small listening space.
     
  6. If it's your only option, make it work, many do their listening in relatively small spaces ---- of course bigger is always better IMO when it comes to listening spaces, but if you don't have an alternative.... make it work!

    Sounds like you're on the right track for "near field" listening with the LS50 - just don't put Cornwalls in there and check back in wondering why it sounds "congested and bass heavy!" :)
     
  7. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

    Location:
    Bay Area, U.S.A.
    Two comments:

    1. why not leave everything as-is and invest in a nice headphone set-up?

    2. are you happy to place your equipment in front of a radiator?

    If you opt to go with your LS50s and clear the room of the computer desk and LP rack, I would be inclined to rotate the set-up by 90 degrees: speakers on PC desk wall and system on short wall beside the entry door. That keeps everything away from the radiator, and you will have unrestricted access to the CD racks.
     
  8. Phono Groove

    Phono Groove Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec

    Hi, I did have a headphone setup for many years, I eventually sold it, headphones were really never my thing. I don't mind placing everything in front of the radiator, in the winter I rarely heat the room it never gets cold like the rest of the apartment so the radiator will be turned off...
     
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  9. Fedot L

    Fedot L Forum Resident

    The quality of sound of a system does not depend on the size of listening room.
    A “tight space” does not mean little boxes in the capacity of LSs.
     
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  10. gorangers

    gorangers Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Haven area
    It's nice to have a dedicated listening room. I turned a small workshop room in my basement into one.

    It's the size of a small bedroom...perhaps 10 x 10. Unfinished space with concrete walls and floor.

    I softened the acoustics by putting up foam on the walls. Sheets glued using liquid nails. Also added a cheap area rug.

    I used the heavy steel work table that existed for my equipment...tt, cd player amp, etc. Speakers about 8 feet apart on stands. Sub on the floor.

    This seems to work pretty well for me. Aesthetics not withstanding.
     
  11. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

    Location:
    Bay Area, U.S.A.
    The size/dimensions of a room has/have a huge impact on sound quality. It also limits which speakers will work adequately in which rooms.
     
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  12. gorangers

    gorangers Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Haven area
    True...the size and shape of the room can be limiting, especially with speaker size and characteristics.

    I use a pair of Paradigm Studio 40 V3 speakers with a sub. That seems to be a good fit and a good match for my Fisher 500b.

    I have a bunch of other speakers, but keep going back to the Paradigms...a decent all around speaker.
     
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  13. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    I lived in an apartment for a few years when my two boys were very young. Their shared bedroom was their playroom, though they regularly spread out into the living room from time to time. It just meant more rigorously enforced pick-up/clean up every evening. I had a small home office back then too, not too disssimilar from yours. There’s no need to displace everything. Visitors (family, friends, etc.) don’t want to sit in a child’s playroom. Keep your living room.

    If you have to do it anyway, you’ll love nearfield-ish listening with the KEF LS50 speakers. It’s a very different experience compared to midfield/normal distance listening. You’ll immediately get a greater sense of how detailed and intimate the LS50s can sound.

    Try running the system without any traps or foam at first. An area rug with a thick, non-slip underpad is usually an exellent first step. Listen for a few days, then make decisions about the walls.

    Where are you going to set up your home office?
     
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  14. stanley00

    stanley00 Forum Resident

    To the OP:

    Sounds like a good plan, especially if you can relocate your vinyl and desk for extra room. My listening room is not much bigger and it works fine. Having a main system in the main living space just isn't practical for some people / lifestyles.

    I would consider adding a good wifi speaker to the living room so you can have a decent source of background music out there. Sonos is pretty good for that.
     
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  15. Fedot L

    Fedot L Forum Resident

    In my system, my graphic equalizer always has the decisive impact on sound quality. With three “generations” of not small 3-way “floor standers”.

    And had it while the system was in a much smaller room by reason of “face-lift” in the “usual” room.
    Nothing “limited” me with my not small 3-way “floor standers”, nor with, years ago, a pair of smaller LSs. Always thanks to my graphic EQs.
     
  16. gorangers

    gorangers Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Haven area
    I have a system in the family room, but had to be careful to find something that sounded great but had a good WAF.

    I put some Triad mini monitors there. They sound great with a sub and the Triads are tiny. Only 4 ohms so they like a fair amount of power.
     
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  17. Phono Groove

    Phono Groove Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    So here goes! I managed to get my lp rack and office desk out, installed 2 ''molger'' shelves from ikea which are of birch wood ( very sturdy ). I also got a butcher block for my imac and a chair that is at perfect height for the kef's. The space is very small 9x8x9 , I am sitting 5 feet away fom the speakers, the speakers are about 1 foot from side and rear walls. To my surprise the sound is excellent, less bright than in my living room, very nice detail sound non fatiguing and bass boominess is almost non present. I also find it surprising that my volume level is the same as when the system was in the living room and I was sitting 8-9 feet away. Actually, I sometimes raise it louder yet I am maintaining the same volume level 5 feet away! The room is not treated at all, I'm sure the rug helps, so far so good it's my first introduction to near field listening and i'm happy that the system is in a closed room free of danger!

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  18. David M.

    David M. Active Member

    Location:
    Champaign, IL
    Absolutely brilliant! And the best part is that you’ve been a good father by allowing your daughter to play in the bigger space (while having this one just for you). Hopefully she’ll enjoy listening with you once in a while. Those memories are precious and long-lasting as kids are exposed to music.
     

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