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Sign O' the Times - Prince (super deluxe edition)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by masswriter, May 29, 2020.

  1. jhm

    jhm Forum Resident

    Let's hope they actually have look for/have access to master (or very low gen) tapes! Also, let's hope they don't digitally limit the hell out of the original album like they did for Purple Rain.
     
  2. masswriter

    masswriter Minister At Large Thread Starter

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    New England
    8 CD & DVD is separate from 13 LP -

    they are two different configurations of the same product
     
  3. bridgeless

    bridgeless Forum Resident

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    Spring Hill, TN
    I made my own deluxe edition of this years ago that was the album proper, plus dream factory, Camille, and a slew of outtakes.

    I could see it being:

    LP 1-2 SOTT remaster
    LP 3-4 B-sides, remixes, etc
    LP 5-6 Dream Factory
    Lp 7 Camille
    LP 8-11 outtakes
    LP 12-13 SOTT Live Show
     
  4. masswriter

    masswriter Minister At Large Thread Starter

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    New England
    note this is all but confirmed officially ... I'm positive more details will leak sometime soon.
     
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  5. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Forum Resident

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    Sounds great, that many extra disks surely will cover most of all the Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, and Camille tracks we all know and love plus more!

    The 1999 box set was fantastic both in content and sound quality so I am really excited about this one
     
  6. masswriter

    masswriter Minister At Large Thread Starter

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    or possibly June 7th, from what I was told.
     
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  7. harmonica98

    harmonica98 Forum Resident

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    Yowser! Assuming mastering is not atrocious this could be a set for the ages...
     
  8. englishbob

    englishbob Its a s*** business

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    I doubt the DVD is the film of the same name, probably something else. Especially when a Blu-Ray edition is available, its a downgrade otherwise
     
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  9. walrus

    walrus Forum Resident

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    I really hope it's not. And I have the movie soundtrack ripped to audio so I don't need that either. But I do need a proper full show from the SOTT tour...hopefully they put in the extra effort instead of what labels too often do and just bundle stuff they have handy together.
     
  10. wildstar

    wildstar Forum Resident

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    OTOH - rather that just including all of the unreleased tracks from those unreleased albums on the bonus discs, they could opt to release all of those unreleased albums in their entirety (which would be largely redundant - (and arguably a waste of space):

    Crystal Ball 2CD/3LP
    Dream Factory 1CD/2LP
    Camille 1CD/1LP

    I do wish they'd squeeze all of the Sign O The Times double album on a single CD though (I haven't timed it myself to check if it will all fit, but according to wikipedia it will, as it is (very slightly) under 80 minutes long.
     
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  11. InPurpleRainbows

    InPurpleRainbows Well-Known Member

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    I'm really looking forward to seeing track lists for the super deluxe version, as 6 discs aside from the actual album is a lot of space for unreleased tracks. If stuff from Crystal Ball/Dream Factory/
    Camille lost albums gets included which seems inevitable then I'd like to see some possible artwork ideas be incorporated into the presentation. I've always liked S'O'TTs cover, mainly for Prince being in soft focus and slipping out of shot. Genius even in the details.

    Only owning the CD album and DVD means there is potential for hopefully some great photos/artwork to see the light of day. I really liked what they did with Purple Rain deluxe set - nice and compact but with stylishly designed and plenty to look at, and would be happy if the same formats get applied here. I find it annoying when re-releases are done but the format design keeps being adjusted from one album to the next. I prefer consistency with that kind of thing, just me. And I won't go for it for any price, it has to be fair. I suspect the deluxe set will be priced more reasonably than the big one.

    Thanks to OP for the news!
     
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  12. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Forum Resident

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    You can bet that the DVD won't be the Sign O The Times movie - the rights to that are tangled, WB doesn't have the rights to it, notice the deluxe version of the movie that came out last year was not even released in the U.S. I'd be very surprised if it's included in this set. We'll see.

    There's no need for them to include the Crystal Ball album. Crystal Ball is Sign O The Times Plus Seven Songs. Those seven will surely be on one of the vault discs. Now, Dream Factory is another thing though, and despite the bits of repetition from SOTT, Dream Factory deserves to be included in full. It fits on one disc, and is a great album on it's own.

    While the Camille album is Awesome, I'd rather see that as a standalone release, maybe for RSD or something. It could be included here, but again, there's the issue of duplicated tracks.
     
  13. appearcomposed

    appearcomposed Forum Resident

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    I definitely would rather the Vault tracks discs be just straight chronological based on recording date, as I believe they ordered them for 1999 deluxe. Including things like Dream Factory and Crystal Ball would make for way too many duplicated tracks and take up room on the disc where the heaps of other outtakes could be! Though I will admit that I would love to have Dream Factory be issued standalone someday...
     
  14. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Forum Resident

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    Like everyone else, I just want to see the tracklist NOW.
     
  15. edenofflowers

    edenofflowers A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular!

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    I hope the DVD is the 'Polka Dot Suit' show, that'd be nice to see in better quality.
     
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  16. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Forum Resident

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    They could do that - however I definitely do hope they take the "less redendant the better" aporoach! I think that with six bonus disks they could include all of the material from CB/Dream Factory/Camille, and even include the early versions of the SOTT songs that had different mixes for Dream Factory (Strange Relationship for example). That way they still have room to spare for random assorted tracks from that era not associated with those albums
     
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  17. 99thfloor

    99thfloor Forum Resident

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    Do you really think they will repeat tracks (those that are in common) several times to have that configuration as a sequence? I think it would seem odd to all but the hardcore fans.

    There will probably be lots more format design changes along the way as the rights to these album pass from one label to another

    I also don't think the concert film is what's on the DVD as Warner won't have the rights to release that in every territory.

    I don't think they should duplicate tracks at all on this Deluxe, that is just odd and would be a waste of space (as there so much else that can be included here). What I envison and hope they do is they just add those tracks that are unique tracks as bonus tracks and then do some or all of the Dream Factory, Camille and/or Crystal Ball albums as separate releases (maybe vinyl only, all of them would work as RSD releases).
     
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  18. ad180

    ad180 Forum Resident

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    They can still do deluxe editions for Parade, Batman, Graffiti Bridge and evening a better Purple Rain.... assuming the Estate’s deal with Sony allows them to license the bonus tracks to WB. All these releases are licensed by the Estate, so I would assume they have the power to pick and choose.
     
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  19. HotelYorba101

    HotelYorba101 Forum Resident

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    California
    With Purple Rain I think that was more of a one-time blunder considering it looks like they used the remaster Prince himself submitted years back (Josh Welton mastered I believe) and many vault tracks from not ideal sources before a proper look and archival of the actual vault was even done at that point. Some of the sound quality on that was really questionable to say the least! Specifically Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden and the Hallway Version of CB


    The 1999 box set I was a lot happier with both in scope of the vault material and with the mastering of the original album - so for this SOTT release I actually am going into it feeling very excited! If it is similar audio quality and presentation as that box set I would be a very happy camper
     
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  20. nerd767

    nerd767 Well-Known Member

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    I wish there would have been a vinyl version of the Purple Rain Deluxe
     
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  21. Rob Hughes

    Rob Hughes Forum Resident

    Very cool. Where's that Take My Money jpg? :)
     
  22. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Forum Resident

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    Actually, if they gave us the June sequence of Dream Factory, it only shares three songs with SOTT.
     
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  23. Summer of Malcontent

    Summer of Malcontent Forum Resident

    If they're smart (and I think they are), they'll include all of those tracks as an archive, without preserving the original tracklistings and redundant tracks (I think Dream Factory can be done without any complete duplications with the finished album, so that might work). They can provide a roadmap to reconstruction in the liner notes.

    Then they get to release the alternative albums Crystal Ball and Camille as RSD (or standalone) vinyl limited editions. It would take a hard-hearted Prince fan not to double dip in that scenario.
     
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  24. Dreaddazzman

    Dreaddazzman Forum Resident

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    :righton:

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  25. DeeThomaz

    DeeThomaz Senior Member

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    Outstanding news on an otherwise grim day.
     

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