Smiths Reunion - will it happen?

You can tell me how wrong I am when this actually happens.

 

While I am always the voice for "anything can happen in rock reunions" Marr just made it as obvious as can be within the very context of alleged negotiations that he is currently not in. That tweet would be FAR harder to back down on than generic past "the Smiths are behind me" or "I refuse to work with Mike Joyce" or whatever on anyone's part. I will no longer be saving up to buy a ticket to see the Smiths next year...

 

Over the years there have been bands that nobody thought would ever reunite and they did. However, if ever there was a band that I would put money on never playing together again it's The Smiths! "I bear more grudges, than lonely high court judges" seems more autobiographical than anyone realised

 

I think Marr's tweet seems fairly clear he won't be playing those songs with Morrissey next year.

 

That’s hysterical. If it were true they signed something with Live Nation, I’d say Marr isn’t participating and the reunion’s over.

A possibility here is that Live Nation got rights to a Smiths reunion tour IF there is one. That doesn’t mean there will be one.

My point is, there’s all manner of ways that the Live Nation rumor could be true, but there still wouldn’t be a reunion.

As others pointed out that even if there were a reunion tour, what are the odds Morrissey shows up for dates more than 50% of the time? And what percent of those does Morrissey sing for longer than 20 minutes before walking off stage?

Anyway, how apropos:

“When you say it’s gonna happen ‘now’ /
“When exactly do you mean?”

When? I’d say never, but that’s just my 2 cents.

 

Johnny Marr's tweet makes clear that this is not going to happen. At least not with the full original line up.

 

Sounds like LN are ********ting.

 

There's more chance of The Clash reforming than The Smiths at the moment (or any other moment if Morrissey continues with his far-right rhetoric).

 

The Smiths would never reform even if Morrissey weren’t putting his foot in his mouth constantly. That Morrissey does constantly do that takes the chances from zero to less than zero.

 

Basically, JM's a good egg and SM's a cock.

 

I don’t think that’s the case. I think the public would be more interested in the Morrissey/Marr aspect, and who was on bass and drums would be immaterial. However, would Marr really want to associate with Morrissey at this stage, given the latter’s world view, which seems completely at odds with Marr’s?

 

I can’t speak for the public, but, just as I have zero interest in seeing “The Who” without Entwistle and Moon, I have zero interest in seeing “The Smiths” without Rourke and Joyce.

 

Morrissey and Joyce only communicate through lawyers.

Marr probably wouldn't want it.

 

At least the Velvets managed the original lineup.

 

Aren't the other members of The Smiths veg heads, too? That would rule out the Nuge.

 

That's the other thing. I mean a reunited Smiths would sell out huge venues in the UK, but they were never big in the States and are at best only marginally better known now. If they did try to book them in big venues here, it would be like the Bad Company reunion I saw in a 1/4 full area. A money losing proposition for whomever was on the risk (the band or the promoters).

 

This would have been perfect 10 or 15 years ago.

Now? Not so much. Not to mention, I can't see Joyce being part of any reunion.

 

The cancel culture strikes again.

God I wish I was perfect like some of you lot.

Of course perfection these days only comes in one flavor.

 

Not at all, if you're referring to a reunion. Even if Morrissey was woke as F this wouldn't be happening.

 

If I was a The Smiths fan, the last thing I would wish for would be a re-union. After all, I saw The Velvet Underground in '93.

 

Not the same thing at all. Moon & Entwistle we’re part of The Who for years before their deaths. They also brought a unique sound to the band. Rourke and Joyce are just a average rhythm section that any competent musicians could probably replace. Just my opinion though.

 

I completely disagree. Bill Wyman is no one’s idea of a virtuoso bass player, yet the Stones were hurt badly by his departure. And not to dismiss Joyce, but Rourke’s bass lines on This Charming Man, Barbarism Begins At Home, and many other Smiths songs are far from average.

 

I'd be disappointed to see a racist (my opinion) showered in reunion $$$.

 

That bad?

 

And it's not accurate.

Rourke's bass lines are essential to the success of the songs ; on Barbarism Begins At Home, This Charming Man, and so on, they're pretty much low register counterpoint melody lines.

Anyone who thinks a drummer isn't important to a song only needs to hear those early Beatles demos. Or pre-Grohl Nirvana.

Morrissey only ever said they were replacement parts of a lawnmower so he could convince judges they weren't worth being paid. That didn't work.