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The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby, the 'chop' guitar solo is... David Marks!

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Rick Bartlett, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector

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    I'd believe it might've been a case of Mr. Marks doing "tracking" after the basic sessions . . .
     
  2. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Poor Ronnie. I was in middle school when he joined so all of my friends have only known the Stones with Ronnie. To them, he is as much a Stone as Mick and Keith.

    Are you a Brian Jones guy or a Mick Taylor guy? Because a lot of Brian Jones fans think that Taylor never fit either.
     
  3. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Fair enough David.
     
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  4. Odradek

    Odradek Forum Resident

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    Mostly, but there continued to be a few sessions with her every year through the '60s, with a final isolated one as late as 1971. See my post above.
     
  5. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Jones had talent
    Taylor could play Chuck Berry / Carlos Santana
    Wood made better sense with The Faces /Jeff Beck.
     
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  6. erikdavid5000

    erikdavid5000 Forum Resident

    Keep in mind, I’m also a cheaper session guitarist than Glen Campbell.
     
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  7. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    maybe but that has nothing to do with what I wrote or quoted.
     
  8. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    Why do people have so much trouble grasping the truly complex narrative that The Beach Boys represent?. Simplifying it does it injustice.

    David played on at least 6 big hits, he had a recognizable style, he was part of the band and played on dozens of songs.
     
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  9. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Oh OK. I haven’t actually read the posts that preceded yours. I thought you were equating quantity with quality of contributions. I apologize.
     
  10. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    I think that Carol Kaye “influence@ is a tiny bit overrated. Not that she is not a great player but she was often one of two sometimes three bass players on a record, all of them playing parts that Brian wrote. Yet people act like she was then only bassist they ever used. I don’t get why Ray Pohlman isn’t mentioned even a tenth as much as she is.
     
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  11. erikdavid5000

    erikdavid5000 Forum Resident

    Same with Dennis Wilson, Jim Gordon, Ritchie Frost, and a few others who drummed on the classic stuff.
     
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  12. Spazaru

    Spazaru Angry Samoan

    you should hear my Bruce Johnston sucks rant LOL
     
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  13. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    :edthumbs:
    Haha.
     
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  14. Lance LaSalle

    Lance LaSalle Prince of Swollen Sinus

    Yes.
     
  15. Rick Bartlett

    Rick Bartlett Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I love Brian's playing, although he has never claimed to be one as much.
    While only 'assuming', I guess he never really wanted so much to be a musician, rather a producer/arranger.
    His could rock a bass or a piano pretty hard in his day.
     
  16. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    never thought that was a big deal in the song...but the info is interesting. : )
     
  17. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    and his voice is amazingly unique...no hiding his voice...such a distinctive sound...my wife loves his voice.
     
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  18. Rick Bartlett

    Rick Bartlett Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Hehe, like I said, probably only interesting to me and about 1 and a half others out there....
    We got 3 pages out of it...
    :biglaugh:
     
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  19. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    the fact that it could have been David in the beginning of the thread was VERY interesting!
     
  20. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    lets hear it! ; )
     
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  21. jwb1231970

    jwb1231970 Ordinary Guy

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    Cuz she’s a woman?
     
  22. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector

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    Sounds similar to drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie on the East Coast. I'm surprised he didn't claim (that I know of) to play on some Beach Boys' tracks . . .
     
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  23. Celebrated Summer

    Celebrated Summer Forum Resident

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    Just an FYI for anyone who is really interested in David Marks: There was a book about him published in 2007, "The Lost Beach Boy."

    It was written by Jon Stebbins, who knows as lot about the group and also penned the books "The Beach Boys FAQ" and "Dennis Wilson: The Real Beach Boy." From what I remember, the David Marks book was a very interesting read, with lots of anecdotes about his teenage friendship with fellow teen guitarist Carl Wilson, who lived across the street.

    The bad news is that it looks like "The Lost Beach Boy" is out of print and now going for high prices on Amazon and eBay. Oh well.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. MikeM

    MikeM Senior Member

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    I wasn't speaking of Beach Boys songs Kaye played on, but rather the number of songs by anyone she played on in her entire career.

    I was responding to someone who said (of Marks) that memories can become muddled over the years — one of the reasons being multiple sessions can be confused or conflated. My point was that Marks doesn't have near the number of (total) sessions to be confused about as Kaye does.
     
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  25. MikeM

    MikeM Senior Member

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    It's not like The Wrecking Crew had a patent on playing guitar chops on the two and four of a song. It's a very common technique actually. And it should be noted that the chops on "Mr. Tambourine Man" have quite a different tonal quality than those on "Don't Worry Baby."
     
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