The big comparison of Iron Maiden CD masterings

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by oldschool, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    So they are the same or it seems the Fame are the 1st pressings for UK.
     

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  2. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    The UK 2CD EMIs are the equivalent of the US 2CD Castles. Some minor differences in track positioning, artwork and package. Mastering too, as it seems from the table.
     
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  3. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

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    :righton:I have learnt something new! I didn't realise the 2 cd sets were EMI, i don't recall then be available in the UK though, we had the first Ten Years instead my memory serves me well!
     
  4. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    I have the Capitols for everything up to Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son except I have the EMI for Piece Of Mind. So I can give the log for the Capitols.
     
  5. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    Sweet, that will prove helpful as we move on with the albums.

    I will move to Killers tomorrow.
     
  6. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Forum Resident

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    This thread is sorely needed, thanks for starting it oldschool!
     
  7. JA Fant

    JA Fant Well-Known Member

    Great read!
     
  8. Brian81

    Brian81 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ohio
    I sold off every album up through FotD on Capitol (except for PoM and Killers, which I had EMI copies of) after I got all the 2 CD Castle ones. They sounded the same to me, so I kept the Castle ones. The artwork was the same except for they boxed out text that was on the original inserts - obviously scanned from the previous CD inserts. I think the Capitol discs were of higher quality (some of my Castles are finicky with players) but the bonus discs are nice, and nothing was cut out. With FotD, they actually added a photo.
     
  9. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    OK, let's move on to Killers.

    Here's the info on the CP32 and the Castle 2CD.

    I am not putting the matrix of the Castle, as it is damn long and I doubt there are differences among matrices for the Castle series.
     

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  10. Brian81

    Brian81 Forum Resident

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    Ohio
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  11. Here's info on the EMI 'Fame" KILLERS CD:

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.32 | 1:45.63 | 32 | 7969
    2 | 1:46.20 | 2:54.30 | 7970 | 21049
    3 | 4:40.50 | 4:18.22 | 21050 | 40421
    4 | 8:58.72 | 3:22.73 | 40422 | 55644
    5 | 12:21.70 | 3:07.05 | 55645 | 69674
    6 | 15:29.00 | 3:52.32 | 69675 | 87106
    7 | 19:21.32 | 5:00.65 | 87107 | 109671
    8 | 24:22.22 | 6:12.20 | 109672 | 137591
    9 | 30:34.42 | 3:20.05 | 137592 | 152596
    10 | 33:54.47 | 4:48.50 | 152597 | 174246


    Track 1: 85.8 %
    Track 2: 96.6 %
    Track 3: 86.4 %
    Track 4: 91.1 %
    Track 5: 82.3 %
    Track 6: 92.3 %
    Track 7: 98.0 %
    Track 8: 76.2 %
    Track 9: 75.1 %
    Track 10: 87.8 %

    Catalog #: CDM 7 52019 2
    Matrix #: CDM 7 52019 2 1:6:4 EMI SWINDON
     
  12. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

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    Thats mine too!:righton:
     
  13. steveharris

    steveharris Senior Member

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    Mass
    Can you guys explain this pink and yellow chart as simple as possible for me?(mentally challenged:nyah:)
     
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  14. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    It might be a bit confusing because the first 2 albums have different UK/US tracklists, the US having one additional song.

    So if the levels of certain CD match all songs for the US release, they refer to it. Notice how for the UK release there's one empty cell, the last one, because it has one track less than the US release.

    This should make it more clear:
     

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  15. Javimulder

    Javimulder New Member

    Location:
    Spain
    Here's Killers, EMI 2CD:


    IRON MAIDEN / Killers

    EMI 7243 8 35869 2 9
    UK: CDEM 1571
    MATRIX: 836035 2 @ 1 / 1-1-6-NL
    Manufactured And Distributed By EMI
    Made in Holland

    Total Time 0:38:42:65

    Pista 1

    Nombre de Archivo 01. Track01.wav

    Nivel Pico 85.8 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 913AD9BD
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    Copia OK

    Pista 2

    Nombre de Archivo 02. Track02.wav

    Nivel Pico 96.6 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 7AE8A126
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [FD485F48]
    Copia OK

    Pista 3

    Nombre de Archivo 03. Track03.wav

    Nivel Pico 86.4 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 98194821
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [15B5E95D]
    Copia OK

    Pista 4

    Nombre de Archivo 04. Track04.wav

    Nivel Pico 91.1 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 3D390B99
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [74F36A29]
    Copia OK

    Pista 5

    Nombre de Archivo 05. Track05.wav

    Nivel Pico 82.3 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC 389FCC05
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [5C7E68DB]
    Copia OK

    Pista 6

    Nombre de Archivo 06. Track06.wav

    Nivel Pico 92.3 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC 5118CCEB
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 4) [17D171EE]
    Copia OK

    Pista 7

    Nombre de Archivo 07. Track07.wav

    Nivel Pico 98.0 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC 3E416452
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [3A8C74F2]
    Copia OK

    Pista 8

    Nombre de Archivo 08. Track08.wav

    Nivel Pico 76.2 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC C2F8C265
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [A8F5436F]
    Copia OK

    Pista 9

    Nombre de Archivo 09. Track09.wav

    Nivel Pico 75.1 %
    Calidad de Pista 100.0 %
    Test CRC AF679871
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [387E0200]
    Copia OK

    Pista 10

    Nombre de Archivo 10. Track10.wav

    Nivel Pico 87.8 %
    Calidad de Pista 99.9 %
    Test CRC D95429D8
    Extracción precisa (nivel de confianza 5) [F7E9EB14]
    Copia OK


    Todas las pistas extraidas de modo preciso

    Sin Errores

    Final del Informe
     
  16. steveharris

    steveharris Senior Member

    Location:
    Mass
    If the numbers are higher or lower from one another how does that sound? sorry!
     
  17. The numbers aren't used to tell how a CD sounds, but they are used to help determine whether CDs of the same title have either 1) different or 2) identical masterings.

    This can be helpful when, say, it's discovered that a hard-to-find (or expensive) CD with a preferred mastering has the same mastering as a more "common" (and probably less expensive) CD.

    *preferred being used subjectively here
     
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  18. steveharris

    steveharris Senior Member

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    Mass
    Thanks you guys
     
  19. Bosco82

    Bosco82 Forum Resident

    Iron Maiden - Killers
    Capitol
    CDP 791416 2
    DIDX 4007
    Manufactured By Capitol Records, Inc
    Made In USA

    TOC of the extracted CD

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.33 | 1:45.20 | 33 | 7927
    2 | 1:45.53 | 2:54.37 | 7928 | 21014
    3 | 4:40.15 | 4:19.43 | 21015 | 40482
    4 | 8:59.58 | 3:22.72 | 40483 | 55704
    5 | 12:22.55 | 3:06.58 | 55705 | 69712
    6 | 15:29.38 | 3:53.55 | 69713 | 87242
    7 | 19:23.18 | 5:01.42 | 87243 | 109859
    8 | 24:24.60 | 2:34.10 | 109860 | 121419
    9 | 26:58.70 | 6:11.53 | 121420 | 149297
    10 | 33:10.48 | 3:21.27 | 149298 | 164399
    11 | 36:32.00 | 4:48.35 | 164400 | 186034


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    Track quality 99.8 %
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    Track 2

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\02 - Iron Maiden - Wrathchild.wav

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    Track quality 100.0 %
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    Track 3

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\03 - Iron Maiden - Murders In The Rue Morgue.wav

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    Track quality 100.0 %
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    Track 4

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\04 - Iron Maiden - Another Life.wav

    Peak level 88.6 %
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    Track 5

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\05 - Iron Maiden - Genghis Khan.wav

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    Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [3C25475D]
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    Track 6

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\06 - Iron Maiden - Innocent Exile.wav

    Peak level 88.9 %
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    Track 7

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\07 - Iron Maiden - Killers.wav

    Peak level 89.7 %
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    Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [C0C59C80]
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    Track 8

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\08 - Iron Maiden - Twilight Zone.wav

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    Track 9

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\09 - Iron Maiden - Prodigal Son.wav

    Peak level 87.6 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
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    Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [C7D3E2DF]
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    Track 10

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\10 - Iron Maiden - Purgatory.wav

    Peak level 86.2 %
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    Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [8B89663D]
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    Track 11

    Filename C:\Music\Iron Maiden\Killers\11 - Iron Maiden - Drifter.wav

    Peak level 88.9 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 18A2B7F9
    Copy CRC 18A2B7F9
    Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [D04B1F75]
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    All tracks accurately ripped

    No errors occurred

    End of status report
     
  20. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Is the DIDX 4007 the matrix number, or this whole 2 lines along with CDP are the matrix?
     
  21. Javimulder

    Javimulder New Member

    Location:
    Spain
    Oops!

    On both the details I posted from my EMI 2CD copies of s/t and Killers (quoted above), I got one line wrong:
    Where it says "Manufactured", it should say "Marketed"!
    I was reading sideways off the artwork and my eyes jumped from one line to the next... sorry!

    I'm not sure anyone would die if I didn't post this correction, but I thought I should set the record straight because you never know...
     
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  22. hvbias

    hvbias Midrange magic

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    Northeast
    Does the Japan CP32 of Killers have pre-emphasis?
     
  23. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

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    Sofia, Bulgaria
    None of them has.

    Here's the updated table for Killers. If any other CD pressings are available, please post here.
     

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  24. oldschool

    oldschool I love tape hiss Thread Starter

    Location:
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    If there are no more contributions for Killers, tomorrow night I'll continue with TNOTB
     
  25. Max F

    Max F Member

    Ok, I get what you're doing now. I see the same peak levels in the spreadsheet above. Good work!
     

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