Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jim B., Dec 10, 2015.
Is Imperial Wax Solvent a U.K. Record Store day only release?
It is, yes. Well, I don't know if it's UK only but it's RSD for sure.
The new Bend Sinister is a delight - I love what's been done here - it just takes a layer of grime off of the album, like washing a window. The results are terrific.
Been listening to Slates, Grotesque and TWAFWOTF of late in a bout of nostalgia. Of the latter, I don't like the remastered versions much. For songs like O! Brother I want the original thanks!
The singles for the TWAFWOTF era I agree are unbeatable on original UK vinyl, but I prefer the Omnibus CD remaster of the album itself over any other version on CD or vinyl I've heard.
Looking at my box of 45s, a facsimile of the Marquis Cha Cha Single would be nice for a future RSD. It’s an annoying gap in the collection!
IIRC, the rights for that are with Cherry Red. Given the facsimile "Rowche Rumble" being added to their new vinyl edition of "Dragnet", I can't imagine this would be out of the question by the time they get to "Room To Live".
Man, Beggars Banquet really needs to get its act together and find a new pressing plant. I've actually had to go through three copies of the new Bend Sinister LP to find a copy where both LPs are (relatively) flat. With two of the copies, the second LP had a bad dish warp and edge warp, and the first LPs were moderately dish warped. I finally found a copy where the first LP has only a very, very mild dish warp, and the second LP a moderate dish warp. I think that's about as good as it's going to get for this release.
This shouldn't be a surprise, as I had similar problems with their vinyl reissues of Bauhaus' Sky's Gone Out and Burning From the Inside - all pretty badly warped. But I'm going to be really hesitant to buy any new Beggars Banquet vinyl in the future.
Were all those pressed in the EU or US?
EU, I believe.
I'm just getting into the Fall and this thread is bookmarked as my go-to with regards to all the releases.
The compilations and live releases are a complete nightmare. At least in today's day and age fans will be able to get the rarer stuff easier and not be constantly searching for an exclusive version of 1 mediocre song from a mid 90s 10" single.
If I were you I’d ignore compilations for now. Get all the studio albums expanded versions then you’ll have 99% of the non album stuff at least up to the Are You Are Missing Winner era.
I’d recommend these official live albums to start: Austerbaijo / Fall In a Hole / I am Pure as Orange, and the Hacienda live DVD compilation. Then if you get into Dragnet, get its “companion” live album Totale’s Turns.
Except the Peel sessions if you can get them...
True, but quite a lot of the Peel Sessions are included on the expanded CDs, which is a good Fall Peel start. Hopefully the full Peel set will get an affordable reissue soon or soonish for newer fans.
Good luck, and don’t bother with the mediocre songs - just get the good ones ;-)
I've already got the Singles box set that I have listened to the first 2 discs. I've also got Bend Sinister which is very good in my opinion. I've heard it a few times. I have The Unuterable and Witch Trials ready to hear other the next month or so but I aren't in a rush to hear everything. I'll be quite glad to be able to 'get to know' these releases over the coming year and more.
Do you mean this?
The Fall - The Complete Peel Sessions 1978 - 2004
I'd recommend going chronologically as it's really like a great adventure with lots of twists and turns.
Welcome anyway to the Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall discography!
I was thinking of doing that and incorporating the Peel Sessions between the albums and singles when they were broadcast. But that could be a bit difficult to keep track of. I have got Live at the Witch Trials on now. First listen. It sounds different to anything else. Very unique.
That's The Fall - always different, always the same!
An excellent approach. I was forced into much the same due to my age and resources, as well as availability (I was 13 when I got into the Fall and have very little money) and it meant that every morcel was savoured. There's not exactly a shortage to material to digest. Happy listening!
I like the grime of the original cd. Wasn’t Bend Sinister the album infamously mastered from cassette?
I would like to hear the new version as it’s a Fall favourite of mine, certainly my favourite Beggars Banquet era album.
According to the liner notes, only two tracks (Riddler! and Terry Waite Sez) were mastered from cassette.
Indeed, this much repeated myth is put to bed on the new edition which states that only "Terry Waite Sez" and "Riddler!" were mastered from cassette - it was always audible at the end of the latter when one can hear some tape warp and the hiss is more noticeable. The new edition makes the hiss on TWS even more noticeable(!) but does a great job with the sound overall as well as adding an alternate mix of TWS from a mastertape, possibly by way of compensation.
It’s listed on the RSD Germany site too, hopefully I can pick up a copy on Saturday as it’s the only studio album I dont have on vinyl as for some inexplicable reason I only bought the CD when it was released.
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