The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. KeninDC

    KeninDC Hazy Cosmic Jive

    Location:
    Virginia, USA
    Not even close to the best show of April '78. 4/16/78 Huntington is the best in a darn good month. 4/11, 4/12, and 4/16 are all worthy.
     
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  2. Eyes74

    Eyes74 Abstractor of the Quintessence

    Location:
    Canada
    Checking 11/19/72 DS for the first time. My appreciation of these big jam pieces is really contingent on set and setting. Phil's solo feels a bit anti-climactic to me.
     
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  3. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

    Location:
    Chicago, IL, US
    Mars Hotel has never clicked for me, to be honest. I agree about Allah though.
     
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  4. Archtop

    Archtop Soft Dead Crimson Cow

    Location:
    Greater Boston, MA
    That's 2/23/74. Not quite as stellar as DaP 13 (2/24/74) but it's very good and the sound and mix are excellent. It features the final Here Comes Sunshine until December 1992 and it's a corker:



    Check out Jerry from 3:57-4:08 and then Keith tosses in a fantastic cascading riff at 4:13. Brilliant.
     
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  5. SlimLee

    SlimLee Forum Resident

    Location:
    The Kulin Nation
    This is probably my favourite Pick of the last few years (maybe since Vol 34). It takes a few songs to really get into the groove, but by “Here Comes Sunshine” the band is cookin’ and it’s all 1974 brilliance through the rest of the show. “Weather Report Suite” knocked me sideways and really made me a believer in what that piece can be, and the whole near-hour-long stretch of music on disc 3 is a ride.
     
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  6. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

    Location:
    Reno, NV, USA
    I would not rank any of these shows in the top 5 for the month, so I would suggest listening for yourself and making your own decision :cool:
     
  7. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Yeah sorry I didn't mean to say he orchestrated it just that he added it and the band didn't like it. Phil and Bill both count Terrapin as their fav studio albums and I think it is pretty good just way too glossy. I don't mind the orchestration. See.... the thing I DO like about their studio albums is the subtle differences or the fact they tried stuff they didn't do onstage like experimenting with studio effects or orchestras or the great sax on TMNS or the different instruments and arrangement on Halfstep. It makes it interesting to listen to the studio albums for a change.
     
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  8. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    I think of naked guys in Veneta without hearing or reading anything.
     
  9. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    That said... beyond the odd album I go like a year between listening to the studio albums... but every time I do I wonder why I don't more often.
     
  10. Corn Pop

    Corn Pop Forum Resident

    Location:
    eagle nest, nm
    Explain....

    Was Mickey the one behind them not performing the best part of the suite live?
     
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  11. audiotom

    audiotom Senior Member

    Location:
    New Orleans La USA
    I have been buying a number of Dead live vinyl releases
    Including the 1, 2, 3 from the vault

    If I understand correctly these are multi-tracks?

    The 9-(23-24)-68 Two from the Vault is a bit hot on the top end without warm mids.
    Not the Gratest recording

    These 68 recordings seem to have a lot of raw open elements

    Playing 2 sides
    The Morning Dew is very aggressive to start
    I also sampled Dark Star - a condensed version at 11:20
    Is PigPen providing those spacey set of 3 triplet interesting underpinnings?
    The more muscular St Steven sounds a bit overpowering, overloaded and congested in the main riff sections
    The calmer parts are more developed here

    I really like the vinyl when there is a stellar recording but this isn’t one of those
    I am hesitant to buy the Dick’s Picks 1 on vinyl, I think I am reaching my limit (report me)
    Or at least being much more selective based on sound quality

    Those 72 recordings on vinyl really spoil you
     
  12. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    He was recovering from an accident and said he wasn't up to it. Portions of that suite are pretty demanding.
     
  13. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

    Location:
    Raleigh, N.C.
    2-23-74... I found that one kind of "meh.j" It's '74 Dead, so it's not *bad*, but there's much better material to be found from that year, e.g.:

    • Dave's #13 (2-24-74) - pricey!
    • Believe It If You Need It - has some great 1974 material.
    • Road Trips #2.3 (Wall of Sound)
    • Dave's #34 (6-23-74)
    • Dick's #12 (6-26,28-74)
    • The 5-CD Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack
     
  14. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

    Location:
    Raleigh, N.C.
    It was the shiznit when that was the only Phil solo I'd ever heard, but they all sort of sound the same.

    Fortunately, the melodic jam they go into afterwards is sublime.
     
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  15. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

    Location:
    Raleigh, N.C.
    We don't judge.
     
  16. Corn Pop

    Corn Pop Forum Resident

    Location:
    eagle nest, nm
    Sure.... but for the next 18 years?!
     
  17. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Not gonna lie... I love this cover. It feel it's just pastiche but even if it wasn't ... still a good contrast.

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  18. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    TBF he was BARELY recovered and shouldn't have been back on the road yet. The Dead pushed themselves hard to perform. Similar to Bill in Egypt.
     
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  19. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Apparently some do cuz I keep finding myself in hot water haha.
     
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  20. bzfgt

    bzfgt The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler

    @ianuaditis
     
  21. Zafu

    Zafu Cosmic Muffin

    You will find that here...

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    :bdance:






    ps: I know what you mean; just being a wise guy, sort of :unhunh:
     
  22. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Also gonna say... this album isn't that bad. It's glossy and the live versions are superior... but it is not a bad album. I prefer it over Shakedown.
     
  23. frightwigwam

    frightwigwam Talented Amateur

    Location:
    Oregon
    The Dead's 11/21/70 show at the Boston University Sargent Gym also was close to Fenway Park, but it says online that the openers were the New Riders and a vaudeville chimpanzee act. I suppose that Joe Perry conflated memories of different shows, or maybe while on acid he thought the chimps were the Stooges.
     
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  24. OmIsWhereTheHeartIs

    OmIsWhereTheHeartIs Forum Resident

    Location:
    BC, Canada
    [​IMG]
    You can hate all you want but this is a good studio album by anyone.
     
  25. US Blues

    US Blues Undermining Consensus Reality

    At Englishtown Mickey was recovering from a broken collar bone so they called it off. Bobby had a twin-neck guitar that he was going to play for the Terrapin Station encore, never happened.

    As for the remained of time, you'll have to ask Jerome John Garcia. While you're at it ask him why he put away The Wheel and Uncle John's Band in 1978. And why China > Rider looks several years to return after the hiatus.
     

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