The Kinks 2018 digital (streaming/download) remasters

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mindgames, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    My old PRT CD's are all in the DR12-13 range. I guess I'll stick with them unless I hear there is some compelling improvement to override the compressed mastering.
     
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  2. KinkySmallFace1991

    KinkySmallFace1991 It was great, so great...young and innocent days

    And I’ll be on the hunt for the vinyl reissues as many folks in that thread say those releases are the best the Pye material will sound.
     
  3. B-Mike

    B-Mike Forum Resident

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    The recent mono vinyl set is hard to beat.
     
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  4. Trevor_Bartram

    Trevor_Bartram Forum Resident

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    PYE were renowned for using good quality American studio equipment. Any of the recordings done by Bob Auger sound fantastic. I believe he was head engineer at PYE. I have the recommended Ultimate collection, the Reprise CDs and some of the D.E.s. The Ultimate and the D.E.s are definitely 'in your face', the Reprise are more laid back, so you take yer pick depending on yer mood. I would luv to hear the PRTs (why doesn't someone create an Original Album Series 5CD set) I assume they are even more relaxed than the Warners?
     
  5. KinkySmallFace1991

    KinkySmallFace1991 It was great, so great...young and innocent days

    Believe me, I have high expectations for it more than ever now. It’s posts like these that get me excited about buying it.
     
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  6. andrewsandoval

    andrewsandoval Forum Resident

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    Let's get real here for a second: the majority of the people on this forum will always prefer the PRT CD's - I still have my set, they are an excellent reference. The Kevin Gray vinyl series is a good secondary - he had the best sources to work with, the same as this new series for iTunes. The new series was done by Tim Young at Metropolis. The Reprise CDs are made from copy tapes that are generally inferior to the Pye tapes, you may prefer them because they are "smoother" - that is your choice, you like what you like. If Steve did the CDs, you would be happier too. I get it. Seriously, I get it. Thankfully, these are digital only so no ones corners are bent or lost in shipping:targettiphat:. Frankly, I stopped by to see just how outraged everyone was - "oh my god, these are louder than the ones from thirty years ago" - I am surprised the thread isn't longer! I'll be sure to send your best regards to Dan Hersch. ;)
     
  7. swedgin

    swedgin Forum Resident

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    Must be nearly a decade since you started your Kinks journey Andrew? I’m still blown away with the content you have dug up for these releases..... Never would have imagined hearing tracks of the quality of Anytime, Lavender Lane and History 40- 50 years after the fact. Been listening again to them this week, just joyful.
     
  8. smiley69

    smiley69 Forum Resident

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    Totally agree ! And I wonder if there are still some unreleased stuff on tapes from this great kinks era : 66-72 ?
     
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  9. Merrick

    Merrick The return of the Thin White Duke

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    Are you recommending the new remasters?
     
  10. GetHappy!!

    GetHappy!! Forum Resident

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    The voice of reason, thank you.

    EDIT: Maybe folks around here would like the new remasters more if “Victoria” was chewed up like on Reprise’s Kronikles, or if “Top Of The Pops” was missing the drumroll like on certain versions of the PRT.
     
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  11. smiley69

    smiley69 Forum Resident

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    Got my reply on Mr Sandoval's Facebook : "I am proud to have selected the tapes for this series and hope it will grow new Kinks fans. For the older fans who have heard it all before, let us allow some new people to discover this wonderful katalog. Currently working on a Village Green Preservation Society box set with some things you have not heard before!"

    VGPS BOX !!!!! can't wait !!
     
  12. WonkyWilly

    WonkyWilly Forum Resident

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    Paradise, PA
    Yeah, I'm sure that's why people still prefer the PRT's. :rolleyes:

    Talk about missing the point.
     
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  13. FJFP

    FJFP Forum Resident

    I can't bloody wait! I hope its a No-Vinyl set, or has a AAA stereo pressing...
     
  14. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

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    I have a combination of PRT, Reprise, vinyls and vinyl rips. It's pity the remasters are brick walled.
     
  15. Flaming Torch

    Flaming Torch Forum Resident

    You are probably right! Re The Kinks downloads HD Tracks UK have the Pye albums excluding Village Green at 96/24 but no mention of whether say Arthur is mono or stereo. Does anyone know? I will get a bunch of them downloaded at some point especially if I get a discount code.
    Andrew thanks for your work on the Kinks catalogue. You know the SHF rules if it is out of print and hard to find it is the best version!
    Great to see Lola included in the series.
     
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  16. GetHappy!!

    GetHappy!! Forum Resident

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    Everything up to and including Face To Face is mono, the rest are stereo.
     
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  17. Man, the mono Something Else never gets any love. The 98’ Castle is brittle and NR’d and the ‘11 deluxe is compressed.

    The rest of this remaster series sounds promising though!
     
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  18. GetHappy!!

    GetHappy!! Forum Resident

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    My main complaint with this new batch - I much prefer Something Else in mono.
     
  19. tonewheeltom

    tonewheeltom Forum Resident

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    Thanks for chiming in. I love your work on the Deluxes. Any chance we’ll see the other mixes, non-LP tracks, and bonus tracks in hi res?
     
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  20. usrlocal

    usrlocal Nice and Smooth

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    Montreal
    Regarding 'artist involvement', let's keep in mind that Ray Davies was also a producer as well as an artist.
     
  21. KinksFan1992

    KinksFan1992 Forum Resident

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    England, UK
    I’d like to know if the source material for these new digital remasters is better than that used for the deluxe editions.

    I was happy with the deluxes, though I am not an audiophile beyond keeping my collection in lossless format (i.e. I don’t go hunting down obscure releases for mastering alone.)
     
  22. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

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    How it's mastered is more important then sources - peak limiting can destroy everything - I'd rather have a cassette copy then a peak limited EQ'd de noised super deluxe remaster.
     
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  23. saturdayboy

    saturdayboy Forum Resident

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    Chicago
    Just streamed Something Else on Tidal Masters.
    Sounded really nice
     
  24. Merrick

    Merrick The return of the Thin White Duke

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    Portland
    Sources still matter. You’re not going to be able to master a terrible source into sounding incredible, even if you have a great mastering engineer.
     
  25. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

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    Sweden
    There's hardly any terrible sources but lots of terrible remasters.
     

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