Disclaimer: mostly sibling stuff... Ha! Think I may have that one too. Similar over here ... wonder how much divergence there may be in our respektive kollektions (vinyl, I mean). Wish I was home in the Big [Black] Smoke this weekend, so I could participate in the patented @Geoff738 TM method. This was in contention when I made my 1st 40 list ('twas the season, after all), but I ended up letting it go. Maybe the next 40...? (tbd) Love this Schooldays cover by local hero Ron Sexsmith.
I wouldn't include Heroes on a DB top 40. Would include Oddity, but not in the top 40. But talk about a list that would lean heavily on one period of an artist's career (Space Oddity through Scary Monsters, maybe one or two songs off Outside). Okay, I left Waterloo Sunset off my list. I don't know why, I have no excuse, I'd already finished my list through so much agonizing when Teen x pointed out that I'd overlooked it. I didn't want to go in and muck things up again, after all I had definitely made sure MISFITS was in there.... twice. BTW I didn't have any Preservation songs on my list because (shudder) I don't know those LPs. Yes today is a day for confessions. But I'm listening now, maybe not in time for the next list, but in time to add to my life. (Like this thread led me to add everything from Low Budget through Americana to my life, thanks again).
The wife's in Paris, and I foolishly invited 2 young friends of the 11-year-old to stay over. So I'm here with 4 unruly kids (including my own 4-year-old daughter), and the 22-year-old who happened to visit us but who's sleeping until 2pm. I treated them with an old French animated feature ("The King and the Mockingbird") until 11pm yesterday night, hoping they would sleep late this Sunday morning. Of course they didn't. I just squandered any "cool dad" capital I might have gained yesterday by displaying considerable amounts of terrified grumpiness in way of "good morning". I bought a few minutes by enjoining them to cook their own scrambled eggs. It might result in a house in flames, but at least I gathered a little time to write a few words here. If you get this message SEND HELP #1 Waterloo Sunset. Not on my list, though it's a great song of course. My story with this song is similar to the one I have with Days: it's been oversold to me, not by my brother this time but by a French Rock'n'roll dictionary I had at the time. So on first listen I stupidly focused on a few musical details that I didn't like so much and missed the big picture. I had to build up my liking of the song with some bits of intellect mixed up in the emotion. It worked to some extent, but nothing can replace a dazzling first experience. [They're debating which ingredients to include. My son likes to experiment with his mother's Asian sauces and oils. I'm not sure the result will be to the others' taste, but I still have a little time. They only just found the frying pan]. So the terrible news just broke out: I'm a tiny bit like everybody else after all. The only award I could ever hope to win just sadly pass me by. I have to content myself with the title of "also ran" in the INLEE race, and I'm not even the only #2!!! But I could not hope to lose to a better champion than Avid @Luckless Pedestrian , and I great his incredible performance with a great "d'oh!" As my Great Aunt used to say, quoting I don't remember who, "People like everybody else are not many" (translated litteraly). [Oh my God, they decided to cook 3 different recipes in 3 separate frying pans!] Top "next 40": I'll do my best. I already have a top 140, and there are many songs that I feel sorry I couldn't include. I will do things mostly at random, this game of "do you prefer your mother or your father" repeated endless times is going to kill me if I take it even a tiny bit seriously! [OK I'll go slice some bread now, I don't want to run to the hospital this early. I count on your prayers].
Good luck with the food preparation and a tip for next time: Don't let the kids stay up too late as you can bet they will still get up early and make you feel old and tired in the process and hide two of those frying pans to limit their options!
I know! And it's far from my first time! I never learn. They did great with the scrambled eggs though. After I complained they didn't keep any for me, one of them cooked me some, and it was great, with tasty sliced leek. Not a bad deal after all.
ON vinyl I have all the UK albums (some re-issues such as Kinks Mono Box) up to and including 'To The Bone' (UK single disc). With 7" singles, again UK only, all (excluding re-issues) in their active career from 'Long Tall Sally' through to 'Only A Dream', excluding 'You Still Want Me', which I guess will stay on the wants list looking at the price it seems to go for.
If you'd put 'Misfits' in every place in your top 40, it would have topped the poll! (probably) Might have been against the rules though...
It sounds like the setup for one of those French movies they release over here every year ("Best French comedy of the year!"). We send you over those awful Almodóvar films in retaliation
Kinks Top 263 Songs - places 101-263 All of these songs received at least one point in our recent Top 40 exercise. Where songs share the same scores they are listed in alphabetical order. What stands out to me are how many fantastic songs we still have in these nether reaches of the big list. Even at the bottom, Everybody's Gonna be Happy has a certain excitable charm. I predict some of these will be in my Next 40 list: Daylight, Shepherds of the Nation, Dandy, Creeping Jean, Mr Big Man, Lost and Found, No Return, Ring the Bells, King Kong, The Time Song, Holloway Jail, Property, etc etc. Actually, it will be a tough exercise to squeeze in everything I really like. 101 Heart of Gold 102 Nothing Lasts Forever 103 Low Budget 104 The First Time We Fall in Love 105 Arthur 106 Brainwashed 107 Look Through Any Door 108 Pictures in the Sand 109 Sitting by the Riverside 110 Lincoln County 111 Sleepwalker 112 Destroyer 113 Rosemary Rose 114 Last of the Steam-Powered Trains 115 The Informer 116 The Time Song 117 Daylight 118 Juke Box Music 119 Powerman 120 War Is Over 121 Mindless Child of Motherhood 122 Love Me Till the Sun Shines (D. Davies) 123 Still Searching 124 Now and Then 125 Where Did the Spring Go? 126 Situation Vacant 127 Rats 128 Wall of Fire 129 Who'll Be the Next in Line 130 Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues 131 Drivin' 132 Only a Dream 133 How Do I Get Close 134 Lost and Found 135 All of My Friends Were There 136 History 137 Harry Rag 138 Long Distance 139 This Man He Weeps Tonight (D. Davies) 140 Animal 141 Money and Corruption/I Am Your Man 142 Mr. Big Man 143 Headmaster 144 Misty Water 145 No Return 146 Nobody's Fool 147 Little Miss Queen of Darkness 148 Aggravation 149 Attitude 150 Holloway Jail 151 Just Can't Go to Sleep 152 Susannah's Still Alive 153 Good Day 154 Plastic Man 155 Hot Potatoes 156 I'll Remember 157 Creeping jean 158 Ducks on the Wall 159 Give the People What They Want 160 The Road 161 Holiday 162 Dandy 163 Kentucky Moon 164 There Is No Life Without Love (Dave Davies, R. Davies) 165 Add It Up 166 I'm on an Island 167 Million Pound Semi-Detached 168 Tin Soldier Man 169 Don't Ever Change 170 Full Moon 171 Party Line 172 Where Are They Now? 173 Working at the Factory 174 Hold My Hand 175 Stormy Sky 176 Catch Me Now I'm Falling 177 Property 178 Top of the Pops 179 Trust Your Heart 180 Around the Dial 181 Cricket 182 Look a Little on the Sunny Side 183 Over the Edge 184 Phenomenal Cat 185 Did You See His Name? 186 Dreams 187 Most Exclusive Residence for Sale 188 Shepherds of the Nation 189 When I Turn Out the Living Room Light 190 Life on the Road 191 Act Nice and Gentle 192 Art Lover 193 Somebody Stole My Car 194 A Little Bit of Sunlight 195 Here Comes Flash 196 Killer's Eyes 197 The Last Assembly 198 Think Visual 199 Complicated Life 200 Naggin Woman 201 Polly 202 Too Hot 203 When a Solution Comes 204 Demolition 205 One of the Survivors 206 Got My Feet on the Ground (R. Davies, Dave Davies) 207 Salvation Road 208 Sitting on my Sofa 209 Duke 210 Babies 211 Flash's Confession 212 Close to the Wire 213 I am Free (Dave Davies) 214 Young Conservatives 215 Oh Where Oh Where Is Love? 216 Drift Away 217 You Can't Win 218 Denmark Street 219 Mr. Reporter 220 National Health 221 Nobody Gives 222 The World Keeps Going Round 223 You're Looking Fine 224 King Kong 225 Skin and Bone 226 The Video Shop 227 I Gotta Move 228 Life Goes On 229 Look for Me Baby 230 Massive Reductions 231 Mirror of Love 232 Scum of the Earth 233 So Long 234 Little Bit of Emotion 235 Scrapheap City 236 Session Man 237 Time Will Tell 238 Yo-Yo 239 A Gallon of Gas 240 Anytime 241 Clichés of the World (B Movie) 242 Nine to Five 243 Have a Cuppa Tea 244 In a Foreign Land 245 There's a Change in the Weather 246 Underneath the Neon Sign 247 When You Were a Child 248 Holiday in Waikiki 249 Johnny Thunder 250 Motorway 251 When Work Is Over 252 You Can't Stop the Music 253 Got to Be Free 254 Moving Pictures 255 Second-Hand Car Spiv 256 Summer's Gone 257 Ring the Bells 258 Slum Kids 259 UK Jive 260 Black Messiah 261 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy 262 I've Got That Feeling 263 Something Better Beginning
Another subtle Mersey band Innuendo?? I know I've posted Ron Sexsmith's Kinks covers many times, most recently last night and it's brought me back to his Rawnboy YT channel where he did no less than 35 (THIRTY-FIVE) Ray tunes. Add to it his cover of This Is Where I Belong (on one of the official Kinks tribute CDs) and Misfits (live with Ray, already covered on the Thread), and it's almost his own top 40. Stats : he has 16 from our Top 40 (no INLEE award for him), some of the big ones (my #1 Oklahoma USA and our collective Top 2 Days and Waterloo Sunset duly included) and some deeeeeeeep kuts that we can only hope could find their way to our next list (including one song that's not even on the 263 list @Steve62 just posted!). His Scrapheap City's particularly appealing: Ron Sexsmith Kinks covers list https://www.youtube.com/@Rawnboy/search?query=ray%20davies Waterloo Sunset Property Shangri-la Little Bit of Emotion Better Things Animal Farm Apeman Moments Have A Cuppa Tea Harry Rag Underneath the Neon Sign Killer's Eyes Sweet Lady Genevieve Days Wonderboy Village Green I'll Remember Come Dancing God's Children Labour of Love Sitting in the Midday Sun Oklahoma USA Too Much on My Mind Stop Your Sobbing Driving Get Back in Line Dead End Street Young and Innocent Days The Way Love Used To Be Two Sisters Celluloid Heroes Scrapheap City David Watts Tired of Waiting for You Schooldays (you can find them compiled on two volumes on the Kinks-obsessed "albumsthatshouldexist" blog)
I voted for On the Outside but it seems to be missing? Unless I missed it and it made the top 100! I’m a bit surprised at how low Dandy is considering it was a hit single, albeit not by The Kinks.
Loveless Kinks Songs. Or are they? Here are the songs on my spreadsheet that received not a single point in the Top 40 exercise. I don't think this means they are unloved. I know that for sure because I really love Uncle Son, Have Another Drink and Willesden Green (a hoot!). But as Mark has pointed out, once we had selected the songs we felt MUST be in our individual Top 40s, it left only a few places for "deep cuts". I guess the next 40 exercise is hoped to spread the love a lot wider. We'll see. EDIT: I think Something Else was the only album to avoid a song with zero points, but my analysis on that question was far from forensic. It's The Vibe. A Little Bit of Abuse Animals in the Zoo Artificial Man Back to Front Bernadette Bright Lights Brother Completely (instrumental) Dear Margaret Definite Maybe Don't Down All the Days (Till 1992) Entertainment Everybody's a Star (Starmaker) Finale Flash's Dream (The Final Elbow) Get Up Going Solo Gotta Get the First Plane Home Groovy Movies Guilty Hatred (A Duet) Have Another Drink Hay Fever Helga (instrumental) Here Come the People in Grey Here Comes Yet Another Day He's Evil I Took My Baby Home In a Space Introduction to Solution It's Alright (Don't Think About It) It's too Late Jack the Idiot Dunce Just Friends Killing Time Labour of Love Lola (instrumental blues jam version) Maximum Consumption Misery Missing Persons Money Talks Monica Morning Song Natural Gift Nothing to Say Opening Ordinary People Out of the Wardrobe Perfect Strangers Permanent Waves Phobia Predictable Pressure Repetition Revenge (Davies, Larry Page) Rock 'n' Roll Cities Running Round Town (instrumental) Rush Hour Blues Sleepless Night So Mystifying Sold Me Out State of Confusion Surviving Uncle Son Unreal Reality Welcome to Sleazy Town What Are We Doing What's in Store for Me When I See that Girl of Mine Whip Lady (instrumental) Willesden Green Wonder Where My Baby Is Tonight Word of Mouth You Don't Know My Name (Dave Davies) You Shouldn't Be Sad
List copied, thank you! I see a few songs towards the bottom here that I probably shouldn't have wasted a vote on, hopeless misses.
I wouldn't see them as wasted votes. I don't mind seeing some of my top 40 strung in the lower reaches. It shows how many good songs they were up against.
Hmm, I seem to have voted in the new list for at least three of these. Poor 'New World' is so unloved I can't find it on any list!
Too bad Lemmy is not on vocals! I’d love to hear him sing this in his full on Motörhead voice. PS, Shel Talmy produced their “dandy” version of Dandy.
The Bowie list I did in May 2023... I have no doubt ours would be very different to each other, but this is the unrefined ranking engine result from when I started playing with it 1 Station To Station 2 Cracked Actor 3 Heroes 4 Rebel rebel 5 DJ 6 Fashion 7 Aladinsane 8 Suffragette city 9 Space oddity 10 Life on Mars 11 Cat people 12 Changes 13 Criminal world 14 Diamond Dogs 15 Ziggy stardust 16 Red money 17 Quicksand 18 1984 19 Look back in anger 20 Golden years 21 Rock and roll suicide 22 Ashes To Ashes 23 Moonage daydream 24 Starman 25 Oh you pretty things 26 Jean Genie 27 Sorrow 28 Wild is the wind 29 Width of a circle 30 Scary Monsters 31 5 years 32 Modern love 33 Man who sold the world 34 I'm afraid of Americans 35 Queen bitch 36 Day on day out 37 Breaking glass 38 Ricochet 39 Time will crawl 40 It ain't easy 41 What in the world 42 Fame 43 Red sails 44 Watch that man 45 Young Americans 46 All the madmen 47 Unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed 48 Tvc15 49 Tonight 50 Wild eyed boy from freeclou
So the complete 263 in one place with available points looks like this 1 Waterloo Sunset - 1201 2 Days -1105 3 Sunny Afternoon - 927 4 Shangri La - 893 5 Autumn Almanac - 733 6 Victoria - 732 7 Dead end Street - 642 8 You Really Got Me - 633 9 Lola - 578 10 Village Green Preservation Society - 543 11 Celluloid Heroes - 531 12 All Day And All Of the Night - 507 13 I'm Not Like Everybody Else - 488 14 This Time Tomorrow - 456 15 Do You Remember Walter - 437 16 20th Century Man - 433 17 Picture Book - 411 18 Strangers - 396 19 Animal Farm - 395 20 Sweet Lady Genevieve - 370 21 Village Green - 370 22 Sitting In Mt Hotel - 369 23 Some Mother's Son - 369 24 Oklahoma USA - 366 25 David Watts - 361 26 Two Sisters - 352 27 Till The End Of The Day - 352 28 Better Things - 320 29 Death Of A Clown - 320 30 See My Friends - 306 31 Scattered - 291 32 Dedicated Follower Of Fashion 289 33 Tired Of Waiting 289 34 The Way Love USed To Be - 287 35 Get Back In Line - 286 36 A Well Respected Man - 281 37 Big Sky - 262 38 Too Much On My Mind - 242 39 Rosy Won't You Please Come Home - 242 40 Misfits - 224 41 Living on a Thin Line 205 42 No More Looking Back 194 43 Where Have All the Good Times Gone 187 44 Wonderboy 186 45 I Need You 184 46 The Hard Way 183 47 God's Children 182 48 Apeman 180 49 A Long Way from Home 179 50 Don't Forget to Dance 171 51 Muswell Hillbilly 158 52 Come Dancing 146 53 Alcohol 142 54 Do It Again 140 55 Stop Your Sobbing 137 56 You Make It All Worthwhile 135 57 A Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy 131 58 Loony Balloon 131 59 She's Bought a Hat Like Princess Marina130 60 Sitting in the Midday Sun 128 61 People Take Pictures of Each Other 126 62 Big Black Smoke 125 63 A House in the Country 122 64 Holiday Romance 121 65 This Is Where I Belong 120 66 Lazy Old Sun 119 67 Berkeley Mews 118 68Fancy 118 69 Starstruck 116 70 End of the Season 114 71 Afternoon Tea 108 72 The Moneygoround 108 73 Moments 107 74 She's Got Everything 107 75 Yes Sir, No Sir 106 76 Set Me Free 102 77 I Go to Sleep 100 78 Schooldays 79 Til Death Do Us Part 80 (A) Face in the Crowd 81 This Strange Effect 82 Education 83 How Are You 84 Live Life 85 Wicked Annabella 86 Lavender Hill 87 Australia 88 Mr. Songbird 89 (Wish I Could Fly Like) Superman 90 Rainy Day in June 91 Young and Innocent Days 92 Nothin' in the World Can Stop Me Worryin' 'Bout that Girl 93 On the Outside 94 Funny Face (D. Davies) 95 I'm in Disgrace 96 Mr. Pleasant 97 Supersonic Rocket Ship 98 Did Ya (bonus track UK/Japan only) 99 Mr. Churchill Says 100 Father Christmas 101 Heart of Gold 102 Nothing Lasts Forever 103 Low Budget 104 The First Time We Fall in Love 105 Arthur 106 Brainwashed 107 Look Through Any Door 108 Pictures in the Sand 109 Sitting by the Riverside 110 Lincoln County 111 Sleepwalker 112 Destroyer 113 Rosemary Rose 114 Last of the Steam-Powered Trains 115 The Informer 116 The Time Song 117 Daylight 118 Juke Box Music 119 Powerman 120 War Is Over 121 Mindless Child of Motherhood 122 Love Me Till the Sun Shines (D. Davies) 123 Still Searching 124 Now and Then 125 Where Did the Spring Go? 126 Situation Vacant 127 Rats 128 Wall of Fire 129 Who'll Be the Next in Line 130 Acute Schizophrenia Paranoia Blues 131 Drivin' 132 Only a Dream 133 How Do I Get Close 134 Lost and Found 135 All of My Friends Were There 136 History 137 Harry Rag 138 Long Distance 139 This Man He Weeps Tonight (D. Davies) 140 Animal 141 Money and Corruption/I Am Your Man 142 Mr. Big Man 143 Headmaster 144 Misty Water 145 No Return 146 Nobody's Fool 147 Little Miss Queen of Darkness 148 Aggravation 149 Attitude 150 Holloway Jail 151 Just Can't Go to Sleep 152 Susannah's Still Alive 153 Good Day 154 Plastic Man 155 Hot Potatoes 156 I'll Remember 157 Creeping jean 158 Ducks on the Wall 159 Give the People What They Want 160 The Road 161 Holiday 162 Dandy 163 Kentucky Moon 164 There Is No Life Without Love (Dave Davies, R. Davies) 165 Add It Up 166 I'm on an Island 167 Million Pound Semi-Detached 168 Tin Soldier Man 169 Don't Ever Change 170 Full Moon 171 Party Line 172 Where Are They Now? 173 Working at the Factory 174 Hold My Hand 175 Stormy Sky 176 Catch Me Now I'm Falling 177 Property 178 Top of the Pops 179 Trust Your Heart 180 Around the Dial 181 Cricket 182 Look a Little on the Sunny Side 183 Over the Edge 184 Phenomenal Cat 185 Did You See His Name? 186 Dreams 187 Most Exclusive Residence for Sale 188 Shepherds of the Nation 189 When I Turn Out the Living Room Light 190 Life on the Road 191 Act Nice and Gentle 192 Art Lover 193 Somebody Stole My Car 194 A Little Bit of Sunlight 195 Here Comes Flash 196 Killer's Eyes 197 The Last Assembly 198 Think Visual 199 Complicated Life 200 Naggin Woman 201 Polly 202 Too Hot 203 When a Solution Comes 204 Demolition 205 One of the Survivors 206 Got My Feet on the Ground (R. Davies, Dave Davies) 207 Salvation Road 208 Sitting on my Sofa 209 Duke 210 Babies 211 Flash's Confession 212 Close to the Wire 213 I am Free (Dave Davies) 214 Young Conservatives 215 Oh Where Oh Where Is Love? 216 Drift Away 217 You Can't Win 218 Denmark Street 219 Mr. Reporter 220 National Health 221 Nobody Gives 222 The World Keeps Going Round 223 You're Looking Fine 224 King Kong 225 Skin and Bone 226 The Video Shop 227 I Gotta Move 228 Life Goes On 229 Look for Me Baby 230 Massive Reductions 231 Mirror of Love 232 Scum of the Earth 233 So Long 234 Little Bit of Emotion 235 Scrapheap City 236 Session Man 237 Time Will Tell 238 Yo-Yo 239 A Gallon of Gas 240 Anytime 241 Clichés of the World (B Movie) 242 Nine to Five 243 Have a Cuppa Tea 244 In a Foreign Land 245 There's a Change in the Weather 246 Underneath the Neon Sign 247 When You Were a Child 248 Holiday in Waikiki 249 Johnny Thunder 250 Motorway 251 When Work Is Over 252 You Can't Stop the Music 253 Got to Be Free 254 Moving Pictures 255 Second-Hand Car Spiv 256 Summer's Gone 257 Ring the Bells 258 Slum Kids 259 UK Jive 260 Black Messiah 261 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy 262 I've Got That Feeling 263 Something Better Beginning
Hopefully this somewhat identifies why it seems like, to me at least, that the songs outside the top forty got very few votes, and a large proportion of the songs really shade in with one vote. Certainly there is no worthwhile guessing from me about what songs people will, or have , voted for, but with those top 40 out of the way, there will be considerable difference in at least the amount of votes available for these songs. We'll see what happens, but it seems like there could be a few surprises, but it will all come down to crossover votes
I was preparing to request an official do-over if the gap between #40 and #41 was between 1 and 5 points (per confession of @Brian x for double vote; padding the ballot box (!)) but feel that a 19 point gap is within the bounds of acceptability.
@Steve62 were there any songs that received votes from all 37 submittals? (Obsessed, I know, but just because a song didn’t chart or even make the top 100 doesn’t mean it might not be on all 37 lists.) Or that was on, say, 36 lists? (Almost consensus?)
