The Mosaic thread: news and opinions

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by J.A.W., Apr 26, 2017.

  1. dzhason

    dzhason Forum President- Impeached

    Location:
    PA
    I received an email on May 8 with updates on the Mobley and Herman boxes.

    Here’s the info they gave on the Mobley:

    We have completed the transfer and mastering stage of this 8-CD set. Rudy Van Gelder’s original tapes are uniformly superb and Malcolm Addey has done an exquisite mastering job. Hank and company never sounded better. Lee Morgan, who’s on six of the sessions, is at the top of his game throughout. Billy Higgins drives 9 of the 13 sessions with incessant swing.

    Bob Blumenthal is almost done with his typically insightful and informative liner notes. I’ve amassed a large amount of excellent Francis Wolff photographs from the actual sessions and am in the painful process of choosing want to include and what to drop because of space.

    The design of the set should be complete by early June and we hope to have finished sets by the end of July.

     
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  2. dzhason

    dzhason Forum President- Impeached

    Location:
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    ...and here is the info from the email on the Woody Herman:

    The Woody Herman Decca, Mars and MGM Sessions (1943-54) is in full swing and we hope to have it shipped sometime in late June or July. It took us longer to gather all the original source material and spend the time to guarantee perfect transfers and restoration which is currently underway. We think you’ll enjoy the freshness of the music obtained by a great majority of the original lacquer discs and many tape sources in fabulous sound. These sources, from the Universal vaults, have yielded some previously unissued alternate takes as well as undocumented titles.


    For those who love the Herman First Herd it is a welcome opportunity to hear this band in its formative stages and then in full blossom at the legendary 1946 Carnegie Hall Concert. It is unlikely that a better source exists of this concert but at least we have the CD release from Verve (produced by the great Ben Young) which had used a cleaner sounding source of discs from Woody’s grandson. Our restoration engineer, Andreas Meyer, is making sure that this concert sounds even better with the technology he currently has at his disposal.

    The Third Herd is well represented in the MGM and Mars offerings and hearing them for the first time, all in one set, I think will give us a better appreciation of this period of Herman’s Herds.


    Jeff Sultanof has sent in his detailed notes and we have a number of rare photos to share with you as well. Add to this the most up to date, corrected discography and you have another Mosaic set that is essential.
     
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  3. Bobby Boogaloo

    Bobby Boogaloo Heavy on the grease please

    Location:
    Mid Atlantic USA
    If you're using a hotmail email that may be the reason. Their spam filter has gone to extremes at this point and it's because of that I missed the Mingus set going OOP.

    Hopefully by re-joining the list that fixes the problem for you.
     
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  4. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    Live long and prosper, Mosaic!
     
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  5. timriepe

    timriepe Forum Resident

    Location:
    Eastern, NC
    Did anyone else see that Mosaic had the Evans In England RSD vinyl last week? I ordered one and am waiting on it. I was curious if they got the same numbered RSD press or if it was a new one? Did anyone else pick one up?
     
  6. Bobby Boogaloo

    Bobby Boogaloo Heavy on the grease please

    Location:
    Mid Atlantic USA
    Savoy & Bee Hive sets back on Last Chance:

    Mosaic Records - Last Chance on Limited Edtion Sets

    Someone must have stumbled onto some lingering inventory...last week it was the Ahmad Jamal set. I've skipped all of these, just not in my wheel house but hope others here get a shot.
     
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  7. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Active Member

    Just ordered these sets from Mosaic on Friday. :)

    Not sure how many these had or still have in stock but there was one of each when I called in to check on the available stock.
     
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  8. markp

    markp I am always thinking about Jazz.

    The past couple of days I have been listening to Mosaic's Jazz Crusader's box. I picked this up used a few months ago and just got around to listening. Wow, what a great band. Joe Sample is well known, but Wilton Felder is also a monster on tenor sax. This music is such a great combination of earthy/funky jazz with some of the modern 60's harmonic stuff mixed in.
     
  9. Tom H

    Tom H Forum Resident

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    Kapolei, Hawaii
    Great observation and I completely agree. I don’t have the Mosaic box but I love Live at the Lighthouse ‘66.
     
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  10. jlrchrds

    jlrchrds Forum Resident

    Location:
    Midwest
    YES!!!!!

    The Jazz Crusader's box is one of the best they assembled in my opinion. I had the flu two winters ago and was a mess for a week. This was the first time I listened to the box, quite honestly I didn't know their music. It went into rotation then and has remained on and off since then. It's just killer... killer. Jeff
     
  11. waaguirr

    waaguirr Active Member

    Location:
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Did you ever get the Evans set from Mosaic?
     
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  12. timriepe

    timriepe Forum Resident

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    Eastern, NC
    I did!
     
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  13. waaguirr

    waaguirr Active Member

    Location:
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Did you figure out how they ended up with extra copies?

    While I’m asking, Any leads for an extra?
     
  14. ilistentoallkinds

    ilistentoallkinds Forum Resident

    Location:
    MD/DC area, U.S.
    Well, on July 3rd, after far too much procrastinating, and/or allowing myself to be "pulled away" by my near-crazy (well, some would say, but not me, really) number of musical interests other than jazz, I finally ordered the Bee Hive Sessions box (especially after seeing that it has been repressed but is on the Last Chance list!!). I'm greatly looking forward to its arrival! I haven't yet received any notices from Mosaic after my order confirmation e-mail. Checking daily to see if the set's on the way though!

    I made a serious decision, with the ordering of this set, that even though I love listening to and buying albums in so many genres of music (including jazz, but definitely not excluded to it!), Mosaic is a truly special and beautiful service to jazz and jazz fans, and I want to do everything that I can to support its continued existence. Also, to be very honest, largely due to my musical eclecticism and free indulging of it with the music that I buy, I have ended up sadly not getting a number of Mosaic sets in the past that I did want, but just kept putting off, wrongly thinking/hoping that they would simply still be in print when I finally decided to put the money down! I do not want to make that mistake ever again, if I can help it!

    Therefore, at least for some time going forward, Mosaic is going to getting a good bit more of my money, while my classical, blues, rock, country, and other genre faves, will be getting a good bit less. How I now wish that I had bought many past Mosaic boxes, rather than other musical genre CDs that seemed so appealing at the time, but that I would happily get rid of for those boxes if I could....!! (Hard lessons learned...)

    Bee Hive Sessions-- I can't wait! The samples sound so good (at least to my ears)!
     
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  15. Bobby Boogaloo

    Bobby Boogaloo Heavy on the grease please

    Location:
    Mid Atlantic USA
    Good move! :righton:

    I recently got the set when it reappeared on Last Chance again and am currently on disc 3. It's phenomenal. Brignola brings some serious heat with his bari sax right from the get go. Not to mention Roy freakin' Haynes! The other benefit with this set is that none of these LPs have ever existed as CDs. What Mosaic accomplished here is practically a public service, as Bee Hive was a small, independent label that didn't have massive distribution. Enjoy it man! :uhhuh:
     
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  16. Tom H

    Tom H Forum Resident

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    Kapolei, Hawaii
    I also just ordered the Bee Hive set. It's an interesting story about Bee Hive but the clips really sold it for me. Hope the entire box is up to that standard!
     
  17. ilistentoallkinds

    ilistentoallkinds Forum Resident

    Location:
    MD/DC area, U.S.
    Exactly, man-- one of the things that made me pull the trigger on this box was the realization that if I kept putting it off, I would quite possibly never find these albums on CD in any future reissues. That is actually a scary thought to me as a jazz fan and music fan in general! This is seriously rare (but great, from what I have heard thus far!) stuff, and I do not want to miss out on it!

    Also, I had not fully realized, until recently, just how much Mosaic needs to be continually supported by its sadly diminishing customer base. If I can do anything, from this point forward, to keep them in business and releasing new sets, I want to do it. Getting a lot of great music, cool liner notes, and good vintage photos, from my financial support of them, is a wonderful bonus! (Well, it's much more than just a bonus, but I digress!) :winkgrin:
     
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  18. ilistentoallkinds

    ilistentoallkinds Forum Resident

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    MD/DC area, U.S.
    The Savoy Bebop Sessions box set is now OOP. It was going to be my next Mosaic purchase, next month, when I could afford it, given that I just ordered the Bee Hive set this month... sigh.

    Once again, this teaches me not to put off buying Mosaic sets for months and months, thinking/hoping that they will still be in print when I decide to finally buy them. Next month, then, it will be the Savory Collection box for me! After that, Louis Armstrong! (May the Satchmo stay in print until September, please!)
     
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  19. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    do a long and patient search in the used market, and you will eventually find all the boxes you want at reasonable prices.

    many boxes are offered in brick and mortar stores which do not list on the web
     
  20. ilistentoallkinds

    ilistentoallkinds Forum Resident

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    MD/DC area, U.S.
    Thanks for the tip. I'll almost certainly have to go the online route for OOP Mosaic boxes, partially for the reason that brick and mortar stores are increasingly hard to find in my area at all.

    Are there sites which you can recommend for OOP Mosaic sets which don't have huge mark-ups in price? The online searching that I've been doing, over the last few weeks, has only led me to exorbitant prices that are out of my current range.

    On a personal note, one of my major life frustrations, as a music fan (and in other ways), is the fact that I was born with a physical disability which keeps me from being able to drive a car. This makes it almost impossible for me to travel for anything music-related that is not accessible by the bus or subway system in my area. Brick and mortar stores that are outside the service area for the public transportation system here are a virtual no-go for me. In the same vein, for live music shows, unless I have a friend who is willing to drive me and attend them with me, it's very difficult to simply get to and from them. By the time most concerts in the MD/DC area end for the night, the buses back to my apartment, and even the subway, have stopped running. It's a serious bummer for me as a dedicated music fan of so many genres. I literally haven't been to a concert of any kind, outside of classical music performances at my church, in several years, and that is definitely not by choice.

    In this vein, if there is anyone in the MD/DC area reading this post who loves to go on music-buying runs to physical stores, and/or who loves to go to concerts, and who would like to make a new friend to go along for such things, please get in touch with me. I'm starving for live music, and I also really miss the experience of hanging out in brick and mortar music stores and finding unexpected cool purchases, and I'd simply like to make a new friend, in-person, who "gets" the music that I love! :) (I don't have many such friends, and I'd love to have more!)
     
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  21. Pants Party

    Pants Party Gone Fishin'

    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Most of Mosaic's sets seem to be selling out much quicker than they had in the past. Maybe it has something to do with their strategy of maintaining a more scaled-back catalog. Maybe that's not by choice either. But either way, I feel like you have to be quicker with your decision.

    Thankfully, the Bee Hive set was one that I pre-ordered when it was announced. I just love their label sets -- with their variety. But they also include music and albums that even Mosaic probably wouldn't do. I really liked their Select and Singles line, for that matter. Perhaps it's time they revisit those.

    While I love the tentpole stuff -- Coltrane, Davis -- I have always had an interest in music that is more obscure -- that people don't have. Just seems more personal maybe. Or maybe it's because we grew up in an era where we, or our dad or our uncle, our friend's dad or uncle, had that perverbal stack of LPs that -- 2/3s of which nobody ever heard of. Or we spent hours in the used bin, flipping through LP covers and only 1 out of 5 rang a bell. Will today's digital world have used bins? I don't know. I don't know.

    Anyway, the Bee Hive set is a ton of great jazz that very few people had. Nice stuff.
     
  22. fatwad666

    fatwad666 Forum Resident

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    Fort Worth, TX
  23. ilistentoallkinds

    ilistentoallkinds Forum Resident

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    MD/DC area, U.S.
    Yeah, I agree with you-- as much as I love Miles and Coltrane (and some of their albums are all-time favorites of mine), I really do love finding the much lesser-known (by contemporary standards) artists and recordings! The Mosaic sets have informed me about great jazz artists whom I either would have never learned about at all or would have likely taken many more years to find without Mosaic's helpful guidance.

    One of the tough things for me about Mosaic sets selling out more quickly, or simply having more limited runs, or both, is that on the budget I live on, I can't really afford to buy more than one set (maybe two, if they're not both $119 or above) in a month. If I could have afforded it, I would have definitely bought the Savoy set this month before it went OOP, but I just couldn't do it, having just ordered the Bee Hive set.

    Even more frustrating, being the huge music fan that I am, but still living on a fairly limited budget, is the hard fact that if I choose to buy a pricey Mosaic set in a given month, that all but ensures that I won't be buying anything else music-related, at all, until the next month! First World problems, definitely, but still frustrating, given that I love jazz, and so many other genres, and many artists in those genres. I often wish that I had hundreds of dollars to spend on music each month, but I just don't. Therefore, next month and for a while, I'll be buying Mosaic sets (to support the business, and because I want to make sure that I get them before they go OOP!) and probably not buying much else in terms of music... though the new Elvis 1969 live Vegas box set and the recent Toto box set are both calling my name! Arrghh, decisions, decisions... I'll wait a while on the Elvis box though, because it almost certainly won't be going OOP in a matter of months, which I can't say with confidence about the still-available-for-sale Mosaic boxes!

    One thing that I can be completely happy about, with no reservations, is the knowledge that my Bee Hive set is now on the way! Twelve freakin' discs of ultra-rare quality jazz and a cool booklet-- I'm so excited! :goodie:
     
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  24. Tom H

    Tom H Forum Resident

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    Kapolei, Hawaii
    Yes, another factor that led me to ordering the Bee Hive set is the fact that it's never been on CD before and it likely never will be again.
     
  25. Bobby Boogaloo

    Bobby Boogaloo Heavy on the grease please

    Location:
    Mid Atlantic USA
    Yall that just ordered the Bee Hive - I'm working through it now and loving it. It's a veritable Roy Haynes drumming clinic as he's present on a lot of these albums.

    Update - Bee Hive set is gone. Oh, and Mosaic's open house is today. Wonder if they took it down because of that?
     
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