The Official MAGMA (& Christian Vander) Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Plan9, Mar 8, 2008.

  1. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    There's a new Magma release out, also: Live in Tokyo (2 cds). I just noticed it listed at waysidemusic.com: http://www.waysidemusic.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=ARCANGELO/SEVENTH 2005
    The vocals only plus piano versions of Theusz Hamtaahk, Wurdah Itah and M.D.K. I think will be quite enjoyable and I look forward to hearing them.
    Normally, i would jump right on this and order it, but I just yesterday received from Wayside
    $140 worth of Keith Tippett & related cds, so this will have to wait a wile...
     
  2. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    This is promising...
     
  3. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Nice thread , makes
    me want to pull my
    cd's out .

    Weirdly i first heard
    Magma in the early
    '80's , i picked up
    Attahk not for
    the music , but for
    the H. R. Giger
    cover , im not even
    sure if i played the
    whole lp , it was years
    later that i began to
    listen to them .
     
  4. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Odd that neither
    box has the mighty
    BBC sessions or the
    singles disc .
     
  5. Dave G.

    Dave G. Forum Resident

    Location:
    NJ
    Live in Tokyo is excellent!
    the 4 EPOK DVD's are essential as well.
    Seventh Japan also just released Benoit Widemann '3', which is quite nice....
     
  6. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    I am not familiar with his work... What "style" of music is it? :)
     
  7. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    Even though being mostly (all?) needledrops, "Simples" (Singles) is essential for any Magmaphile. My favorite track is Klaus Kombalad. Janik Top's Mekanik Machine is a killer tune also.
     
  8. Dave G.

    Dave G. Forum Resident

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    NJ
    The Widemann stuff is keyboard driven fusion.
    His 1st disc, 'Stress' is heavier, but '3' is also enjoyable.
     
  9. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Have BBC on now...BEAUTIFUL !!!
     
  10. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Studio Zund box arrived today !!!
     
  11. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    That crackly disc of
    versions of pieces
    from the 1st lp , what
    is it , demos , early
    sessions ? it sounds
    like an acetate , i like
    it , but , a drag there is
    no tapes !

    I'd have liked it if they'd
    have included Mekanik
    Kommandoh , iv'e never
    heard that version .
     
  12. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    IIRC, that's an acetate. Yep, unfortunately, the tapes are either lost or withheld somewhere...
     
  13. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Was under the impression
    this was a studio session ,
    just read that it was recorded
    live in Bordeaux .



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  14. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    I thought it was an alt studio version, btw, there's one for sale (maybe still) in the classifieds...
     
  15. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Toulouse, France
    Weird, I also always thought it was an alt studio session. :confused:

    We need a true Magma expert on this forum! :D
     
  16. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
  17. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    studio zund box

    maybe I should get this then too.....I've kinda got so much new Magma now I'm reaching burnout stage...
     
  18. Dave G.

    Dave G. Forum Resident

    Location:
    NJ
    go for it! I don't have to twist your arm anyhow...
    I think it is worth repeating how essential the 4 EPOK DVD's are...
    I am not much of a music DVD guy, but this is an amazing document.
    4 DVD's covering 35 years of the MAGMA with perfect producton values.
    Audiophile STEREO sound & amazing multiple camera work so you can really see all the musicians playing. This is probably my favorite retrospective of a band ever.
    these are the ones:
    http://v2.seventhrecords.com/achat/index.php?catid=38

    rerusa.com has the best price on them & free shipping if you are in the US.
     
  19. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    Yes, I find these DVDs amazing too. The 1st Vol. made me rediscover their earlier albums. I think some of the performances on this are the definitive versions. The sound is great, courtesy of Francis Linon. Can't thank him enough.
     
  20. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    Another big thumbs up here for the 4 Epok DVDs. My only complaint, and it's really a small one, is that there are no English subtitles for some of the brief backstage conversations. I had two years of high school French and one college semester but that was 33 years ago and I don't remember much of it...
     
  21. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Any love for this one ,
    Univeria Zekt : The Unnamables ?

    Just heard it today and
    like it .



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  22. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Magma : Magma (Kobaia)
    First album , a double LP , recorded
    and released in 1970 on the
    Philips label .
    One of my favourite
    Magma LP's , sadly the only
    one recorded with Guitarist
    Claude Engel , who also
    composed Thaud Zaia .


    http://www.seventhrecords.com/MAGMA/REX4/cdkobaiauk.html



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  23. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    Claude Engel is AWESOME ! This is my favorite Magma CD by far...it's unfortunate that the digi-pak doesn't include the inner gatefold drawing of the band though...it's their most unique sounding, before their typical "sound" was fully developed, with hints of acid-rock and free-jazz, awesome!
     
  24. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    I remember being so impressed with the cover art on this one when I saw it in the import bin of my favorite store back in the mid 1970's. Even though I bought every other magma album I put off getting this one until it was no longer in stock and then my favorite record store went out of business. So this first album became my "lost" Magma album for some time. In the fall of 1988 Wayside Music had a by-mail auction of some out of print albums and this was one of them. I really wanted this one so I bid over three times the minimum bid and ended up paying around $96 for it, not including shipping. Of course, about half a year later the cd was released...

    Anyway, a fantastic debut with a sound that was unique to it. When I first heard it I had not much exposure to Coltrane and didn't hear the influence. Now after much Coltrane listening it's obvious. François Cahen's piano is at time very much like McCoy Tyner's.
     
  25. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    yeah, I hear the Tyner influence, and I also hear a Pharoah Sanders influence. In the liner notes to the recent digi-pak Vander mentions being influenced by his Impulse LP Tauhid, (one of my fave jazz LPs of all time, btw) which features Sonny Sharrock on guitar, which you can definately hear the influence of in Claude Engel's guitar playing...
     

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