I don't understand that why the police 2003 remaster is underrated in this thread... i listened Outlandos, Reggatta De Blanc, Synchronicity and thought that there's no reason to consider this remasters awful. Sound thicker and clearer than original cds and more good EQ'd and no hint Noise reduction than MIB Box remaster. Check Blind Test thread of Reggata De Blanc. I remembered that 2003 DSD remasters were praised much when released... it's strange.
Ah, i think some compression can give music sound more punch and softness without annoying notice. For example, Bob ludwig's Bruce Springsteen 2014 Box. I hate 'Remaster slam' here...
In Your way, Rolling Stones 2002 remaster or In A Gadda Da Vida 95 Deluxe sounds inferior to original cds? I don't think so.
The UK SACDs in the digipaks are dual layer with both CD and SACD but I suspect the USA ones in the super-jewel cases are SACD only.
I grabbed that Synchronicity remaster in the digi when released, gifted it to a co-worker the next day. I did not enjoy it- this was before I joined the forum
I don't like the 2003 remasters because the amount of added loudness doesn't go well with the music in my opinion. I like the louder Queen remasters however, it's all very subjective. The SACD Layer fron the 2003 Remasters is by the way the same EQ as with the standart CD release minus the limiting and I still don't like it at all. I just think from all of Bob Ludwigs great work, the Police and Nirvana Remasters are his least favourable work for me. But again it's all highly subjective. When you like the 2003's you shouldn't give a damn what someone else says
/Nirvana? Nevermind Remaster is bad..... I don't know whether bob ludwig did remaster In Utero in 2013 or not, 2013 In Utero Remaster is very good.
A while back, I ripped the SACD layer of Reggatta from my blu ray player and it was actually just as compressed as the redbook version. Ditto for Outlandos and Synchronicity (though I don't that one anymore). I'll admit that I do like the 2003 remaster, but on the other hand, why would the SACD layer need compression? The redbook layer didn't need it either, but as far as compressed remasters go, I've heard much worse. The only 2003 redbook remaster I don't care for is Zenyatta, and that's because I found it to be somewhat dull. Whether or not the Ghost and Zenyatta SACD's are compressed, I can't say as I don't have them. I'm fine with the DADC Ghost and Platinum SHM Zenyatta, so I don't really need the SACD's at the moment.
Heh, the old SACD for Zenyatta is typically described as the only good one from that batch of Police SACDs. (Not to say your opinion isn't valid.)
I liked the SACD and even found it similar to my US vinyl pressing, though I admittedly haven't heard either of them in a while. If I see a cheap copy somewhere then I'll grab it. The reason that the Zenyatta SACD garnered some praise here was likely because the older versions weren't as good as the rest of the catalog, especially the US for US CD. That one had very bright EQ and tons of clipping IIRC.
Not sure what you mean, SACD is DSD, a different format than PCM 24bit/96kHz (but roughly equivalent).
From conversion to PCM it's usually 88 correct Tom? I think I remember my Oppo outputting it as such. But with some SACD's the mastering itself could be cut at 44 depending on source. Archimago had a nice list started back in 2013 Archimago's Musings: LIST: Suspected 44 or 48kHz PCM upsampled SACDs.
Yes, DSD was made to be a multiple of 44.1kHz when converted to PCM. As for the source, ideally it is an analog source with no absolute limitation in frequency response like you would with 44.1kHz PCM.
Agreed, Zenyatta was the only one I found of the original 2003 SACD's to be tolerable on the whole. The 2015 SHM-SACD Zenyatta demonstrated to me how good the album could sound in a digital format as it's pretty much "audiophile grade"
For me, the 2015 SHM-SACD is the only really good digital Zenyatta out there. That includes the old EU CD (bit tinny), the 1993 remaster (mid-heavy EQ) and the 2003 Ludwig (narrowed stereo field, doesn't breathe)
I noticed that Synchronicity, by the Police, was released again in Japan on CD in 2017 (cat # UICY-78318). Is the mastering, for this 2017 CD, identical to the SHM-CD's released in Japan in 2013 (cat # UICY-76029 & UICY-40043)? Cheers.
2003 Low-priced reissue. 2003 remastering. Enhanced CD. This series features the albums with the following product number: UICY-78284 through UICY-78337. Available for a limited time of period only until August 17, 2017 Synchronicity (Remastered) [Low-priced Reissue] The Police CD Album
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