Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Creole Gris-Gris, Jun 23, 2019.
Nobody's mention Ludus, a UK outfit that was an influence on Morrissey. Moz apparently roomed with their lead singer Linder Sterling in his pre-Smith days.
I think the post-punk puts across a sense of alienation from the modern world. Speaking metaphorically, with punk you were taking it to the streets. But with wuth post-punk you were fighting to find a way out of an endless, cold, imposing industrial park.
Not bad. I'm hearing U2's OUT OF CONTROL by listening to that, coincidentally out the same year!
What I love best about these kind of threads and this place, such a learning curve. Unaware of Ludus until now, that sound reminds me a little of Life Without Buildings - thanks for posting it.
Siberia is the best Bunnymen Album since Evergreen, although, Flowers is very good. Their only bad Album is The Fountain-IMO.
I own the first 3 White Lies Albums, but only play their first one on a regular basis. I have read good reviews on their recent Album, so will soon check it out. Although, after Interpol and The Editors, was not sure I needed to hear another stepchild of Joy Division type Band, but do love the first White Lies Album.
With teenage depression and suicide rates at an all time high(apparently mostly due to social media), not sure I would want the vulnerable ones listening to 'Faith' & 'Pornography'. 'Faith' is like standing on the edge of a cliff and looking down, and 'Pornography' is like jumping off of that cliff. Some dark stuff. Just the Song Titles alone, 'The Funeral Party', 'The Drowning Man', 'All Cats Are Grey', 'The Hanging Garden', etc. 'One Hundred Years' is a Nightmarish Song itself.
All that being said, the Triology of 'Seventeen Seconds', 'Faith' & 'Pornography' is my favorite CURE Music after 'Disintegration'. I do not care much for their 'Pop' Type Music except for those type of Songs on "Kiss Me x 3'. I do like the variety of music on '4:13 Dream' though.
Hey hey whoa whoa whoa, I was just combining posts. My son has never heard any of The Cure. I was saying my kid and I bounce around in the car when "Rock and Roll Victim" comes on the shuffle when we do errands. He also digs Ramones and Deep Purple. He digs Good stuff for his age. Nothing even close to the Faith/Pornography stuff.
Stuff Ripped Straight from Wiki
The Screamers were an American electropunk group founded in 1975. They were among the first wave of the L.A. punk rock scene. The Los Angeles Times applied the label "techno-punk" to the band in 1978. In the documentary Punk: Attitude (2005), the Dead Kennedys cite the Screamers as a key influence on their group and as one of the great unrecorded groups in rock history.
The Screamers were noted for unusual instrumentation, featuring synthesizer (ARP Odyssey) and electric piano (Fender Rhodes). Additional musicians, including violinists and a female vocalist, were occasionally incorporated into their performances. The group featured a theatrical presentation that centered on manic lead vocalist, Tomata du Plenty. DuPlenty and Tommy Gear, a keyboard player and vocalist, were the band's principal songwriters.
I see it the opposite way. Kids who are depressed or suicidal find relatable voices in performers who reflect their own dark feelings. It makes them feel less alone to know other people go through the same thing. For me it was The Smiths. They even have a song called "Rubber Ring" that touches on this and uses the now-classic phrase "The songs that saved your life."
As a teenager, one of the things that fueled my depression was that it seemed everyone else was popular and having a good time. I can easily see teens today looking at the "beauty pageant of pop" (which is what it's become) and wanting to jump off a cliff because the girls could never be as glamorous as Beyonce, Taylor, Ariana, Katy, etc. and the guys can never have them. And no one's life is as exciting as the ones performers sell through their songs and images.
But weird old Robert Smith, with his awkward looks and twisted sense of style and self? "Hey! That's me!" said millions of teenage listeners. And the vast majority of those listeners ended up just fine and didn't kill themselves. We need more albums like Faith and The Queen Is Dead for today's teens, not less.
Speaking of post-punk, anyone a fan of either Swell Maps or the Monochrome Set?
The Misfits were my entry into punk. I was a big Danzig fan so naturally I checked out The Misfits. Bought Walk Among Us on 7th grade and was hooked. Next came Samhain.
Once I discovered Bobby Steele's The Undead I was hooked.
Bobby Steele: Undead Misfit – Green and Black Music
I was a metal guy with long hair but I loved punk as much as Slayer and Iron Maiden.
I subscribe every word.
Pop music of today is all "I'm the richest", "I live a luxury life and I'm having fun all time", "I'm the sexiest", "I'm the best and you're a loser because you're not like me"
I was going to say that I turned out ok, but then remembered that I first heard those Albums when in my early 20s(although first heard 'Disintegration' a few years earlier, and thought that was the Darkest Album I ever heard at the time).
That being said, I think any well adjusted kids can listen to any Music, play any Video Games or watch any Movies and not be affected. Of course, Parents know their kids best and what Music, Video Games and Movies are appropriate for them to handle and at what age.
All of this made worse with Social Media from Cyber Bullying to Kids depressed that they do not get enough Follows, and measure their Self-Worth in some cases by Social Media Popularity.
Oh and 'Rubber Ring' is one of the Top 3 Smiths Songs-IMO.
Screamers were one of the best bands to come out of that era. The double cd In A Better World and the Target DVD filmed at Mabuhay Gardens are essential.
I would add Pleasant Dreams.
Swell Maps! A Trip To Marineville turned my head sideways in 1979.
Don't forget the wonderful Wipers
This is like the all Purpose Heavy Metal Thread. It has absolutely no direction, just people posting random things.
My random stuff:
Middle Class was a punk band from Orange County, CA formed in 1976. In 1978 they released one of the earliest hardcore recordings (perhaps only The Germs were before them) with the Out of Vogue EP. Then by 1982, when everyone else was doing Hardcore, they released a great Art-Punk album called Homeland.
Middle Class- "The Call"
False Prophets, from NYC rarely get mentioned. They seemed different than most of the mid 80s Punk from the USA. They released 2 albums and some singles during their time. Some other stuff was released later.
False Prophets- "Functional"
There best and most well known song was "Taxidermist". This is an early version on a 1982 comp. The album version from 1986 is a lot more polished.
False Prophets - Taxidermist
The Clash & Pere Ubu...the best of both worlds...
IMO Pere Ubu might not have a record on a grand scale of "London Calling" but with 44 years under their belt the Ubus have definitely been unsurpassed over the long haul...
With David Thomas & the Ubu's final work due in July, I for one will definitely miss their uniquely special brand of avant-garage genius...
My wish is that like that other shamelessly ignored band (Velvets) the Ubu's will one day also be recognized as the underground innovative geniuses they always have been, from Rocket From The Tombs through their upcoming last "The Long Goodbye" they occupy a galaxy all their own...
I have enjoyed the trip since day one...
Wire / Chairs Missing
The Mekons (a few records)
Crossing the Red Sea w/ The Adverts
Gang Of Four / Entertainment
Sex Pistols / NMTBHTSP
X- Ray Spex / Germfree Adolescents
Marianne Faithful / Broken English
Haven't checked the all purpose Heavy Metal Thread, I'll have to check it out. Random might mean it might have the potential of being new.
And I did say it was gonna be gross from the start. Fair warning right?
Bio from Last.fm
Iron Curtain was a minimal wave band from Santa Barbara, CA, who played regularly in the Los Angeles underground music scene. They were heavily influenced by The Cure, OMD, Joy Division, and Kraftwerk. The band released several records in small quantities even though they had a great fan base, and hence over the years these releases have gained mass cult appeal which has driven the prices of used copies up into the thousands. After several years of searching for Steve Fields (front man for the group), Pylon Records is pleased to bring the entire catalog into print for the first time on CD. Featured on the CD is the cult classic "The Condos", the goth-club-friendly track "Tarantula Scream", and the much-sought-after track "Legalize Heroin", which has a stark resemblance to My Bloody Valentine.
There really isn't anything much worse than when folk pop in and tell you what to post or where.
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