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SH Spotlight The True Story of the "INTO THE MYSTIC" mixing goof on Van Morrison's MOONDANCE album

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Jan 17, 2007.

  1. bartels76

    bartels76 Forum Hall Of Fame

    Steve what Moondance vinyl reissue is due to come out? Your version or is it someone else's?
  2. I just got the first W/B Van's CDs remastered, Moondance sounds fantastic with the tambourine, as does His Band, & Astral Weeks.:love:
  3. Ken E.

    Ken E. Senior Member

    New Providence NJ
    That 'foghorn' sounds like a baritone sax, maybe two or with a tenor?
    Tambourine isn't terribly obvious on my German copy - deadwax starts "WMME Aalsborg"...
  4. Another Side

    Another Side Forum Resident

    San Francisco
    What releases would these be? :confused:
  5. These are from Warner Brothers Japan, also just recieved 6 Springsteen remasters & 4 Janis Ian's they all sound great
  6. Another Side

    Another Side Forum Resident

    San Francisco
    Does it say who did the mastering?
  7. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    The ATX
  8. Wilkie

    Wilkie New Member

    Richmond, VA, USA
  9. Todd E

    Todd E Forum Resident

    I prefer the first running order. Have to try reprogramming it...
  10. mrmaloof

    mrmaloof Active Member

    As Nate-O-Phonic pointed out in another thread, the current Warner Japan remaster includes the original Into the Mystic mix, with the tambourine and the louder foghorn. Sounds great to finally hear this original mix!

    - Joe
  11. LeeS

    LeeS Martini Time

    Joe, any comments on overall sound quality?
  12. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

    That means they used the safety dub marked "USE THIS FOR CUTTING". The only actual master on that tape is INTO THE MYSTIC. Could sound OK...
  13. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

    Milwaukee, WI
    Isn't it the other way around? The "USE THIS FOR CUTTING" tape had the remix spliced on, while the actual masters had the original mix? Per below:

  14. mrmaloof

    mrmaloof Active Member

    It's more compressed than would be ideal. The opening "And It Stoned Me" is quite loud and set me up for disappointment, but after that there are a lot more dynamics and reasonable levels. It's definitely better than my original US CD, but there's still room for a CD version with Steve's touch. Astral Weeks is a greater overall improvement in sound, but nothing as dramatic as finally having the right mix for one of the songs!

    The foghorn effect is quite startling in this mix, in a good way. I had never even associated those notes with the foghorn in the lyrics before, but it's hard to miss it in this version.

    - Joe
  15. I finally got around to ordering this from amazon japan. I had forgotten about it. Thanks guys you cost me $40! :)
  16. monkboughtlunch

    monkboughtlunch Senior Member

    Kansas City
    So does the current CD have the incorrect mix? If so, does this mean the current CD was not mastered from the original master tape and uses a production master (dub)?
  17. mrmaloof

    mrmaloof Active Member

    They're quite a bit cheaper from hmv.co.jp, in case you like it and want to get the Astral Weeks and His Street Band And Choir remasters too.

    As far as I know the current US CD has the incorrect mix. I've heard rumors of a secret US remaster, but my original US CD had the no-tambourine version. Steve's original post in this thread has the full story.

    - Joe
  18. Thanks Joe! I just spent more money! :) (it is for a good cause though...better SOUND!)

    I haven't come across a secret remaster yet...
  19. GerryO

    GerryO Forum Resident

    Bodega Bay, CA
    Picked up a SS copy of the Dusty and Sweets LP about a year ago and today at a local record store sifted through about ten Moondance LPs (mainly Palm Tree labels), before finding and settling on a W7 -1A copy ($5) to go with my W7 -1D copy purchased too many years ago.

    This forum is GREAT!
  20. jh901

    jh901 Forum Resident

    Are these Warner Japan CD remasters those from 2008? Which Van Morrison titles were done? Are there many members who agree that the sound quality is excellent?
  21. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

    Request for a bump.

    Is this still in print (the version we cut at 180 grams for WB?)
  22. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Tokyo, Japan
    Yes. The CD with the tambourine "Into The Mystic" is WPCR-75420.
  23. chewy

    chewy Forum Resident

    West Coast USA
    into the mystic of the moondance lp is the last lp my local radio station in san diego (101kgb) would play on air, well into the 90s. i have no idea why they never had the cd, but whenever they would play into the mystic even in the late 90s it was always the lp

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