Thelonious Monk With John Coltrane Complete 1957 Riverside Recordings 3LP 2017

Excited to learn this is coming out in May 2017, first time on vinyl (the complete set), from Concord Music. Seriously hoping the mastering is great, probably not all analog cut but they do have 24 bit transfers to work with (if I remember correctly from the liner notes on the CD release from a few years back), that should allow for a great sounding release of this amazing music

 

It'a interesting to me that they changed the cover art from the CD version. This is much better (even if it does just rip off a Jackie McLean album cover).

 

The CD version is two CDs (and quick addition there is about 2hr 15 min), so I would assume that there are 3lps worth of stuff.

 

Should be the track listing of the original 2CD release:

April 12 recordings in trio formation.
June 25 & 26 recordings in septet formation.
July recordings in quartet formation.

Featuring Coltrane & Monk with Wilbur Ware, Art Blakey, Shadow Wilson, Ray Copeland, Coleman Hawkins...

CD 1
"Monk's Mood (False start)" (Monk) – 0:55
"Monk's Mood" (Monk) – 7:52
"Crepuscule with Nellie (Take 1)" (Monk) – 4:34
"Crepuscule with Nellie (Take 2)" (Monk) – 4:42
"Crepuscule with Nellie (Breakdown)" (Monk) – 0:55
"Blues for Tomorrow" (Gigi Gryce) – 13:33
"Crepuscule with Nellie (Edited, retakes 4 & 5)" (Monk) – 4:46
"Crepuscule with Nellie (Retake 6)" (Monk) – 4:39
"Off Minor (Take 4)" (Monk) – 5:15
"Off Minor (Take 5)" (Monk) – 5:07

CD 2
"Abide with Me (Take 1)" (William Henry Monk) – 0:54
"Abide with Me (Take 2)" (William Henry Monk) – 0:54
"Epistrophy (Short)" (Monk, Kenny Clarke) – 3:09
"Epistrophy" (Monk, Kenny Clarke) – 10:46
"Well, You Needn't (Opening)" (Monk) – 1:26
"Well You Needn't" (Monk) – 11:23
"Ruby, My Dear (Hawkins)" (Monk) – 5:25
"Ruby, My Dear (Trane)" (Monk) – 6:21
"Nutty" (Monk) – 6:38
"Trinkle, Tinkle" (Monk) – 6:39

There is never enough Monk & Coltrane for me, I'll just soak in every single note they ever played together Nice to have it on 3LP, but from the prices I'm seeing this is not going to be cheap, quite more than what I would expect Oh well.. we're not going to live forever.

 

I hope they have enough sense to leave out the false starts and break downs.

 

I have the single CD and the 2CD set but only because it was a $4 cutout at Newbury. I luv both Coltrane and Monk but the repetitions are tedious after the first listen. Everyone is desperate for 'new' music and the record companies oblige when there's enough profit to be made but I urge a little self control until you're sure.

 

Yes, there is the Monk's Music album on Riverside, the Monk with Coltrane album on Jazzland (less one solo track), the 13-minute "Blues for Tomorrow," "Monk's Mood" from the Thelonious Himself session, and about 15 minutes' worth of outtake material (mostly alternate takes of "Crepuscule").

 

I believe that it was recorded at the same session as the Monk material with Coltrane and Hawkins. . . . (This from memory as I'm away from my copies of this).

The stereo version, not the mono, of Monk's Music is used.

 

I think they would have to have made three discs to include all the mono material, and that would probably mean they would not make the set at all as they would expect even smaller sales. That's my thought. This set did not sell well on cd and was discontinued fairly soon after release--many were able to get it at severely discounted prices. "Blues for Tomorrow" is presented here in stereo for the first time, I think it makes sense to include it as it's from the same session, apparently Monk took a nap and they took advantage of the time by recording this tune attributed to Gigi Gryce! They got to put it out in stereo for the first time and f they hadn't included it, some would complain. Jazz fans are a cranky lot.

The mono material you are espousing is available on the K2 version cd. I actually like both the mono and the stereo versions.

 

Of course Coltrane plays on "Blues for Tomorrow." He takes a 3 minute solo. Great track btw.

Probably this will be the stereo version of Monk's Music, as on the great CD set transferred by Joe Tarantino. Except the master of "Crepuscule" which only exists in mono.

I agree with you that the absence of the mono masters is regrettable, but the stereo is a pretty interesting mix. All that's really missing is the bass.

 

Pretty sure you are mistaken about the released master of "Crepuscule," which is take 6. Take 6 only exists in mono. It is not a composite of incomplete takes.

There is a complete alternate take edited out of takes 4 and 5. This might have appeared on the original stereo LP, but it is a different performance from the mono take 6 (master).

 

This contradicts what Orrin Keepnews himself says in the notes to this set. He says he had them do another take. Maybe he is wrong, but (as I recall) the 4+5 composite is not the same, content-wise, as 6.

 

6 is not made out of 1+2. There are timing differences between all the takes. 3 is a breakdown.

I could be wrong about 4+5 but you'd think either Tarantino or Keepnews would have noticed. Keepnews had an incredible memory.

 

From Elusive Disc

180g Vinyl 3LP Box Set!
Remastered From Original Analog Sources!

For just a few months in 1957, two of the greatest musicians in history - Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane - recorded together in the studio. This deluxe, 3-LP, 180-gram vinyl box set captures all of those sessions in chronological order. Originally released on CD, this edition features newly remastered audio from the original analog sources. An accompanying booklet offers an insightful essay by the late Orrin Keepnews, who produced the original sessions.

Features:
• 3LP Box Set
• 180g Vinyl
• Remastered from original analog sources
• Booklet

Selections:
Side A:
1. Monk's Mood (False Start)
2. Monk's Mood
3. Crepuscule with Nellie (Take 1)
4. Crepuscule with Nellie (Take 2)
5. Crepuscule with Nellie (breakdown)
Side B:
1. Blues for Tomorrow
2. Crepuscule with Nellie (Edit/Retakes 4 & 5)
Side C:
1. Crepuscule with Nellie (Retake 6)
2. Off Minor (Take 4)
3. Off Minor (Take 5)
4. Abide With me (Take 1)
5. Abide With me
Side D:
1. Epistrophy (short version)
2. Epistrophy
3. Well, You Needn't (Opening)
Side E:
1. Well, you Needn't
2. Ruby, My Dear
Side F:
1. Ruby, My Dear
2. Nutty
3. Trinkle, Tinkle

 

Here's the information on the launching the newly minted imprint Craft Recordings, this deluxe 3-LP box set will feature unique 'file folder' packaging, original artwork, rare photos and 180-gram vinyl pressed at RTI from lacquers cut by George Horn at Fantasy Studios in Berkeley, CA. Rounding out the package is an insightful essay by the late Orrin Keepnews, who, as producer of the original sessions, was present at the creation of every note.
Features the following collective personnel: Art Blakey, Wilbur Ware, Coleman Hawkins, Shadow Wilson, Ray Copeland and Gigi Gryce.

 

nice looking set.

 

Can't wait for this.....any material is good material by these two!

 

Has anyone picked this up? My copy is due to arrive tomorrow