I’ll let him speak for himself, but it appears that an OG doesn’t have the same splice issue, and because he’s used to that copy, it’s hard for his ears to adjust to the TP
Got it. I misread. Like most remixes these days or versions that are different to what we first heard. . After 50 years of the original stereo Sgt Pepper, I just can’t get into the new one. Invidious not the same thing but I get it. Hadn’t heart Huslin’ before so this new one is fabulous to me.
Thanks for posting the list. I’m in same boat and prefer being selective with Blakey. Heck, I’m a guitar player and haven’t lapped up all of the Grant Green titles. Workin’ on Burrell though
Excellent points here. While I agree the warble rambling became over the top, I come here to collect information and to learn from those like me who love jazz and great sound. When opinions are silenced and, worse yet, evidence is erased, the utility of this thread is greatly diminished.
just found this post from 2015 on the organissimo forums which contradicts struttincool's input here... "Anyone else notice the sudden shift from stereo to mono on the second track, at the beginning of Scott's solo? I assume there was an issue with the stereo recorder at the session, as I have the original vinyl and it does the same thing. If I recall correctly, Rudy always had a mono safety running."
In regards to a mono safety running, I believe that would be incorrect. Rudy stopped the practice of running both a mono and stereo reel somewhere in 1958, hustlin is 1964.
right, but that's another topic. of more importance is "when" this splice happened. people cancelling or returning orders based on one person's recollection (we all make assumptions based on memory that are later proved incorrect) seems a bit drastic if this is a master tape issue. perhaps there was a flaw in the very first pressing that was "fixed" by the splice to mono as early as '65 (the record was released more than a year after the recording, not that much can be read into that given BN's release schedule).
Yes, but if the splice isn’t on the original pressing, there is likely a subsequent pressing where the splice first becomes present, which is what I’m wondering about. I only have this TP Hustlin’ and the shift on that track is not bothersome to me at all, but I’m wondering when it would have occurred.
Got it. I’ll let @struttincool chime in as it’s his post that I think needs some clarification (he’s the one with the OG). I was I only trying to interpret what he posted.
Well-stated Mazzy. I’m really glad I have this one. Amazing record. Now I have to try to go back and listen for the splice.
Will take a listen on Tidal before ordering. I'd like to know that too...is it on earlier LP and CD issues, even going back decades? Hmmm. Perhaps some more Clyp postings are in order, wherever those are allowed.
Speaking of mono splice on Hustlin': I was very wrong! It's on the original pressing! I apologize....
Yup...it’s pretty troublesome for me to do returns back, I have had almost 45% return rates for records (mostly from other labels) I bought from Amazon, mainly because of warped or superficial defects. Don’t get me wrong, they are not all Amazon’s fault, and I truly appreciate Amazon and their customer service. That is the reason why I love this forum and the people contributing to it. You guys really helped me a lot and save me plenty of unnecessary trouble
I believe one of the original releases of Hustlin' was in mono. I have no idea if it was a fold-down of the stereo or if there was a mono recording.
I have this album on reel to reel (15 ips / 1/2 track). It is stereo, made from a safety master. Just like the LP the sound switches to mono at the beginning of Scott's solo in "Love Letters." I don't have the original stereo LP but my guess is that all copies are the same (unless someone finds one that does not).
See above. The OG stereo LP that @struttincool has been discussing has the splice. It has been there all along.
I see the post. Just wondering aloud what could have been spliced in because They're all fold downs in the mid 60s on blue note. No mono master tapes exist.
It is possible that that section of the recording is just one of the original channels. I need to listen to it again to see if that could be what they did.
Even though by this time RVG was only running session tapes in stereo, he would have made a mono tape by folding down the stereo into mono, and for whatever reason would have needed to take a splice from that mono tape to fix whatever issue was on the stereo tape. This is all contingent on if you believe that the original stereo tape is the one with the mono splice (as it appears and confirmed above an original copy does have the mono issue)
