Woody Allen: Film by Film Thread

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by RayS, Aug 29, 2015.

  1. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    In terms of my opinions, I'll give you credit for choosing 14 films that I really like and would be happy to watch again tonight ("Shadows and Fog" being the sole exception - it wouldn't dent my top 25). "Small Time Crooks", for me, has the feel of two films with the same characters stitched together. When the "Larceny Inc." inspiration runs out, it moves on to the "fish out of water" film.
     
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  2. dirwuf

    dirwuf Misplaced Chicagoan

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    Curious why Stardust Memories fails to crack the top 10 on so many good lists…it may not be his best work, but in my mind, is the definitive Woody Allen film.
     
  3. L.P.

    L.P. Forum Resident

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    In the first Woody Allen biography I did read Stardust Memories was considered one of a trilogy of masterpieces (with Annie Hall and Manhattan). Later I found out that American critics seemed to hate it. I always thought that was because European critics saw him in the tradition of the auteur theory, while the film was to artsy for American critics and that they felt attacked by the film. I like it, but you could say it's the poor man's 8 1/2.
     
  4. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    With 75 minutes to proctor an exam, I found sufficient time to complete this exercise. I rather arbitrarily included and excluded some of the fringe films. I guess I included "The Front" because it's good and left out "Picking Up the Pieces" because it's awful. :) "Stardust Memories" did not crack my top 10 (or 20). I found the "early, funny" films the hardest to compare to the other films. "Match Point" is surely better filmmaking than "Bananas", but I tried to just go with the gut feeling of what I like and what I want to see again and again.

    1 - Crimes and Misdemeanors
    2 - Hannah and Her Sisters
    3- Annie Hall
    4 - Manhattan
    5 - Deconstructing Harry
    6 - Radio Days
    7 - Broadway Danny Rose
    8 - Love and Death
    9 - Play It Again, Sam
    10 - Zelig
    11 - Purple Rose of Cairo
    12 - Bullets Over Broadway
    13 - Another Woman
    14 - Take the Money and Run
    15 - Vicky Cristina Barcelona
    16 - Sleeper
    17 - Bananas
    18 - Husbands and Wives
    19 - The Front
    20 - Match Point
    21 - Manhattan Murder Mystery
    22 - Stardust Memories
    23 - Interiors
    24 - Mighty Aphrodite
    25 - Blue Jasmine
    26 - Cassandra's Dream
    27 - Sweet and Lowdown
    28 - Everything You Always ...
    29 - Small Time Crooks
    30 - Whatever Works
    31 - Midnight in Paris
    32 - Scoop
    33 - Wonder Wheel
    34 - Irrational Man
    35 - September
    36 - Everyone Says I Love You
    37 - Melinda & Melinda
    38 - Shadows & Fog
    39 - Magic in the Moonlight
    40 - New York Stories
    41 - Cafe Society
    42 - Celebrity
    43 - A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
    44 - A Rainy Day in New York
    45 - Anything Else
    46 - To Rome With Love
    47 - You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
    48 - Curse of the Jade Scorpion
    49 - Don't Drink the Water
    50 - A Crisis in Six Scenes
    51 - Alice
    52 - Rifkin's Festival
    53 - Hollywood Ending
     
  5. mrjinks

    mrjinks Optimistically Challenged

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    Damn. You guys are forcing me to think about creating my own list.
    :cussing:
     
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  6. geoffr

    geoffr Lifeguard in a carwash

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    Mr. Allen is 87 years old today.
     
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  7. smilin ed

    smilin ed Senior Member

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    You know what? I just forgot. Maybe that's a subject in itself. Why would I forget it? It outght to be on there.
     
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  8. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    Amazed at how well Radio Days places now. It wasn't warmly received when it came out, although I enjoyed it a great deal when I caught it on cable a few years later. Now it often appears in individual Top 10 lists, sometimes in the Top 5.
     
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  9. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    I think some people may have initially found "Radio Days" slight compared to some of his other films, and perhaps self-indulgent.
     
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  10. thgord

    thgord In Search of My Next Euphoric Groove

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    I would include it because his character has all the hallmarks of the exact same nervous-nilly persona that he's portrayed in literally every other film.
     
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  11. blutiga

    blutiga Forum Resident

    I've always thought of The Front as an Allen film. He was totally doing his trademark character.
     
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  12. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

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    Love your list, Ray.

    Seen everything by Woody, and own a ton. I even watched Annie Hall on a flight last week...I guess because I’ve watched it everywhere else.

    Which ones would I watch over and over? Over the years, only two really...Annie, of course, and...Bananas!
     
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  13. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    In the days when a DVR was a box you had on top of your TV and not a "cloud" feature, I had my ReplayTV programmed to record anything with Woody Allen in it. So I'd rewatch films or portions of films over and over again as they were recorded, while I worked out. I found that "Hannah and Her Sisters" and "Radio Days" were the two films that you could watch any random 30 minutes of and still get something out of, over and over again. Not something you can pull off with "Interiors" or "Another Woman".
     
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  14. davebush

    davebush New Test Leper

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    Most underrated:

    Cafe Society
    You Will Meet A Tall Dark Stranger
    Alice
    Manhattan Murder Mystery
    Cassandra's Dream
    Small Time Crooks
     
  15. unclefred

    unclefred Coastie with the Moastie

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    I love those two but Love and Death takes that crown.
     
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  16. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    The discussion in this thread caused me to pull out "Annie Hall" last night for the first view in a long time (since we covered it in this thread, I assume). It's still great. It still makes me laugh out loud numerous times, and I yell some things at the screen like it's "Rocky Horror Picture Show" like ... "Ivan Ackerman, always the wrong answer ... ALWAYS."

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    And the ending is still so real and so bittersweet.
     
  17. adm62

    adm62 Senior Member

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    Mine would be not too dissimilar to this, Purple Rose of Cairo makes my top 10 though and Manhattan would be lower, hasn't aged as well as some of his other 70s movies
     
  18. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    Re: Radio Days
    I didn't quite enjoy it the first time I watched it, and shelved it for years (we're talking the VHS era here). Then, for whatever reason, the second time I watched it, years later, I loved it and savoured every minute. It's a favourite now. Lovely film, I don't really know why I couldn't enjoy it the first time.

    Re: Play It Again, Sam
    The fact that the director credit belongs to someone else is something I consider moot. I do absolutely always see it as a Woody film. He wrote it and starred in it (and that goes for the Broadway play that ran for hundreds of performances too), and I don't believe for a second he wasn't ever consulted or that he never had a say in directorial matters. But even if he actually was completely hands-off, it's still total Woody, and prime Woody at that. No way I can think of it as not-a-Woody-Allen-film. I'll always include it on any list of his major works.
     
  19. smilin ed

    smilin ed Senior Member

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    Here are my ten post-Harry films:

    1. Midnight in Paris
    2. Sweet and Lowdown
    3. Vicky Christina Barcelona
    4. Blue Jasmine
    5. Whatever Works
    6. Match Point
    7. Small Time Crooks
    8. Rifkin's Festival
    9. Curse of the Jade Scorpion
    10. Scoop

    A more controversial choice, I know...
     
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  20. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    I appreciate the love for "Whatever Works", which I usually find myself in the minority on.
     
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  21. unclefred

    unclefred Coastie with the Moastie

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    play it Again Sam is a favorite, but I recall thinking after seeing Annie Hall that Sam seems a lot like a practice run for Annie.
     
  22. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower Thread Starter

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    Last night I pulled "Small Time Crooks" down from the shelf. This may turn into a trend. I still really enjoy the first portion of the film, even Ray's Ralph-Kramden-inspired empty threats about what he'll do to Frenchy if he doesn't get his way or she doesn't stop insulting him. The sunset scene on the roof has some beautiful cinematography that is somehow not out of place in a comedic farce. Michael Rapaport's character raises dumb to an entirely new level. The film loses some steam after the cookie company becomes a success, and loses even more steam in its last 15 or so minutes, IMO. There was probably more comedy to be mined from the supporting players in the second half of the film, when almost all the focus falls on Ray and Frenchy's marriage. Hugh Grant is terrific.
     
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  23. In my younger days (in college, and all through my 20's -- so circa 1988-99), I routinely ranked Stardust as one of my 2 or 3 favorite Woody Allan films (and quite often #1). I'm less of a Woody Allan fan overall for the last couple decades -- but I'm sure it would still be in my top 5.
     
  24. davebush

    davebush New Test Leper

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    That sunset shot is gorgeous. I look forward to it every time I watch the film.
     
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  25. mrjinks

    mrjinks Optimistically Challenged

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    Inspired by others' rankings of The Woodman's films, I spent (too much!) time reviewing my comments in this thread and elsewhere and came up with the following.
    *before the name denotes projects not always mentioned in his filmography.

    1. Crimes and Misdemeanors
    2. Annie Hall
    3. Husbands and Wives
    4. Hannah and Her Sisters
    5. The Purple Rose of Cairo
    6. Manhattan
    7. *Play It Again, Sam
    8. Deconstructing Harry
    9. Stardust Memories
    10. Midnight in Paris
    11. Broadway Danny Rose
    12. Bullets Over Broadway
    13. Match Point
    14. Bananas
    15. Blue Jasmine
    16. Sweet and Lowdown
    17. Take the Money and Run
    18. Love and Death
    19. Sleeper
    20. Zelig
    21. Manhattan Murder Mystery
    22. Another Woman
    23. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
    24. Radio Days
    25. Small Time Crooks
    26. You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
    27. Café Society
    28. Interiors
    29. Scoop
    30. Alice
    31. Irrational Man
    32. Magic in the Moonlight
    33. Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex*
    34. Mighty Aphrodite
    35. A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
    36. Cassandra's Dream
    37. Rifkin's Festival
    38. September
    39. *Oedipus Wrecks
    40. Celebrity
    41. Everyone Says I Love You
    42. The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
    43. *Don't Drink The Water
    44. Shadows and Fog
    45. Melinda and Melinda
    46. *What's Up, Tiger Lily?
    47. *Crisis in Six Scenes
    48. To Rome with Love
    49. Wonder Wheel
    50. Whatever Works
    51. Hollywood Ending
    52. A Rainy Day in New York
    53. Anything Else​
     
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