10cc / Godley & Creme album-by-album thread*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, May 3, 2019.

  1. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Everything Is Not Enough
    One thing that does strike me about this album, is the sound. Everything is right there. The production is very balanced in terms of what you can here. The bass is always right there, and the clarity seems pretty good.
    This is a pretty cool track. We have a different kind of funk going on with the groove here.
    The song is well constructed and although this isn't a groundbreaking track, it has all the ingredients. We have a cool groove, layers, harmonies, Cool guitar. Probably not going to make everyone's best of 10cc compilation, but a good track none the less.

     
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  2. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Ready To Go Home
    We start here with an atmospheric synth track, with somewhat moody percussion in there. The vocals come in nicely too.
    Although this still has that smooth sheen of production, that Gold and Gouldman love so much, this is a quite earthy song, and seems a little more earthy at its core.
    I actually like this track quite a bit. It may not be the greatest thing they have ever done, but it has a bit of substance, and seems to come from the heart, rather than contractual necessity.
    Good track

     
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  3. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

    Location:
    Dutch mountains
    Everything Is Not Enough
    This is an okay track without any detours. In the old days a 7" b-side candidate.
    Ready To Go Home
    This one's unlike the other tracks so far, with an emphasis on synth/keyboard plus acoustic guitar. The chorus reminds you of a Dave Gilmour/Pink Floyd sound. Could be a solid album track if combined with similar sounding ones.
     
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  4. Daniel Dolphin

    Daniel Dolphin Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gavle
    ”Ready to go home” is one of several inspired tunes from Graham on this otherwise uneven album. Heartfelt and atmospheric and also a bit touchy. I’m glad that he didn’t took the advice from Eric to do a remake in the reggae style...
     
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  5. tenor1

    tenor1 Forum Resident

    Ready To Go Home is one of my favorites on this album, with a haunting melody and lyrics. I believe that this is the only Andrew Gold lead vocal on a 10cc album, and I think the harmonies with Andrew and Graham work really well here.
     
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  6. Daniel Dolphin

    Daniel Dolphin Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gavle
    Graham seemed to be geared up for this 10cc Project and it would have been interesting what it would have resulted in if he had done it on his own as originally planned. Ready to go home was one of the highlights when i saw Grahams 10cc in Uppsala, Sweden last february.
     
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  7. Lonesurf

    Lonesurf Forum Resident

    Location:
    Philadelphia, Pa
    Excellent, heartfelt track. No matter what, Graham and Eric have always been master tunesmiths.
    Glad to hear that Graham still plays this one.
     
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  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Grow Old With Me
    This is a sweet, somewhat acoustic track. The sentimentality is unashamedly dripping from this track, and the melodic construction is nice enough to make it an easily digested song.
    I don't love it, but there is nothing to dislike about it. Very Sweet

     
  9. mark winstanley

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    Margo Wants The Mustard
    This track has a Calypso kind of feel about it. It is well written, and well executed ... it is pretty pleasant, but comes over as a little bland for me.
    I like the key change and the lead break.

     
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  10. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

    Location:
    Dutch mountains
    Grow Old With Me
    Warning from your dentist: to prevent your teeth from instant rotting only play this once ! Cigarette lighters, candles, rose petals, vanilla scent, violins, Andrew Gold doing Macca-style backing vox ... how cuddly can it get ?
    Margo Wants The Mustard
    Mankind can stop competing, because Mr Eric Stewart is Margo's mustard.
    It's a good thing the guys weren't doing any music videos by this time ... Unless they would've chosen to dress up Graham as Margo of course :laugh:
     
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  11. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Peace In Our Time
    As we go through, it does seem as though Graham had some very good songs together for this project. I am not really totally aware of how this came about, or frankly, even why. It appears Stewart wasn't very interested and annoyed with it being released as it was or something, and that probably explains why he isn't as well represented on this album.
    I like this track a lot, and reckon it is another stand out song on here. It isn't groundbreaking, but is a song I enjoy.

     
  12. mark winstanley

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    Why Did I Break Your Heart
    A big synth ballad. It is a nice atmospheric track. A really nice melody that sits nicely on the bed of synths.
    It is possibly a little longer than it needs to be, as it doesn't really do anything along it's 5+ minutes, but I find it enjoyable enough.

     
  13. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

    Location:
    Dutch mountains
    Peace In Our Time
    Really nice intro sounds promising. Good composition that is weakened by the drum & programming stuff and the woah oooh woaaaaah's don't help either. Good guitar solo almost drowns in production.
    Why Did I Break Your Heart
    More synth drowned relationship material, who needs that ? Oh wait
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Daniel Dolphin

    Daniel Dolphin Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gavle
    ”Peace in our time” is a spirited sparkling song dressed in the 90:s production style that fits the song very well ( i even like the woah oohs !) The collaboration with Steve Pigott payed off well and is easily in my top 20 list of Graham Gouldman songs. A total contrast to Eric:s Tunes which sounds very ”run of the mill” to me but i guess he had to fight against the clock as Graham had more or less prepared to release the 10cc album by himself.
     
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  15. tenor1

    tenor1 Forum Resident

    "Peace In Our Time" is my other favorite from this album. Graham's songs are all strong, but this and "Ready To Go Home" are the top ones to my taste.

    Eric's songs are nowhere near as strong, but "Why Did I Break Your Heart?" is my favorite of the bunch. This is my first time hearing "Margo Wants The Mustard" - catchy music but perhaps not Eric's finest hour as a lyricist.
     
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  16. bRETT

    bRETT Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston MA
    Wow, I'm at a loss for much to say about any of these songs. Well crafted and pleasant, and that's it. Its the first album in the entire thread that just isn't very interesting on any level.
     
  17. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Sadly, in spite of a few good songs, there is just a blandness about it. All the edges are smoothed beyond recognition, and it makes me a little sad.
     
  18. mark winstanley

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    Now You're Gone
    This has a sort of late sixties, early seventies kind of sound and feel. The simple arrangement, and acoustic guitar does quite a bit to make it appealing to me.
    It has a pretty nice chord progression, although the return to the opening pattern is slightly awkward.
    This isn't the greatest song of all time, but I actually like this quite a bit.

     
  19. mark winstanley

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    I'm Not In Love Rework of art mix
    I don't think this song needed to be touched. The original is an absolute masterwork, and should be, have been, left to revel in its own glory.
    I wonder if the vocal is the original intended vocal, because I believe they used the demo vocal on the original.
    There are a couple of bits and pieces added, a little guitar thing in the first instrumental break for example ... and they are pretty decent, but on the whole, if I want this song, then Original Soundtrack will be going on the player.

     
  20. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    One version of this album has I'm Not In Love acoustic session 95, but I can't seem to find that I'm afraid.

    Anyway. This album isn't an embarrassment or anything, the songcraft is good, the sound is very nice, and it does work on the level of what it is. It is just a little sterile, and lacking in any fire.
    I am not fully familiar with the circumstances under which it was done, but from reading your posts it seems that it was a somewhat tricky situation with Gouldman going full steam ahead and Stewart being unprepared, and I dare say, not fully committed .... they aren't great circumstances under which to make an album.... and if the guys weren't really on speaking terms, it ends up being a bit futile, and a cynical exercise is creating product.

    For a band as great as 10cc were/are, the isn't really a satisfactory way to end a marvelous career, but it is what it is.
    I find it very sad that these days folks seem to consider 10cc to be some kind of seventies singles band, because that is just so far from the truth, that it kind of annoys me.
    Hopefully at some point interested parties will browse this thread and get some information from you guys that posted, and listen to the music, and find a new band to add to their music enjoyment, because I certainly feel the band are one of the greats.
     
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  21. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

    Location:
    Dutch mountains
    Now You're Gone
    Listening to this you realize how much a straightforward singer-songwriter acoustic guitar song doesn't fit on a 10cc album. There's nothing essentially wrong with it; he could've resisted singing Yoooooouuuuu as stretched as he did.
    I'm Not In Love Rework
    Pointless exercise. The original lead vocal is so much burned into my brainplayer you immediately notice the new lead vocal's timing is off, while it's essentially trying the same. The original is a masterpiece that shouldn't be touched by anyone, just like The Wall Street Shuffle.

    I think the Fun Lovin' Criminals did a far better really different remake.



    I agree with Mark's final comments about the album. All things considered the band's split after How Dare You is the most unfortunate and unnecessary one in music history. The chosen paths of both duos emphasize their respective strengths and weaknesses, that were bypassed by cross-co-writing in the past.
    I think Stewart at some point expressed his regrets about 10cc's need to always include hit singles on the albums. And he couldn't have been more right. Without the commercial singles focus 10cc could have built a respectable album career like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan. Should've put your foot down, Mr Stewart.
     
  22. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Most definitely
     
  23. Ludger

    Ludger ISthisALLreal, ISthisALLnecessary, ORisTHISaJOKE?

    Location:
    Dortmund, Germany
    For those who crave to know more this is hot off the press:
    https://10ccbook.com/
    An official biography with input from all original members save Lol.
    I received my copy yesterday, and boy is it a big book!
     
  24. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Reference guide 1968 -1985

    Godley And Creme History Mix 1985
    Wet Rubber Soup/Cry
    Expanding the Business / The 'Dare You' Man / Hum Drum Boys in Paris / Mountain Tension
    Cry single edit
    Love Bombs
    Snack attack
    Golden Boy
    Wet Rubber Soup single edit thanks @ChristopherTeuma

    Wax - Magnetic Heaven 1986
    Right Between the Eyes
    Hear No Evil
    Shadows Of Love/Marie Claire/ Ball and Chain/ Systematic
    Break Out / Only A Visitor
    Rise Up/ Magnetic Heaven

    Godley and Creme video Directors
    81/82
    83
    84
    85
    86
    87
    88

    Paul Mccartney Press To Play (with Eric Stewart)

    August 1987 Changing Faces - The Very Best Of 10cc and Godley And Creme

    August 87 Wax (UK band) American English ( with Graham Gouldman)

    Godley And Creme Goodbye Blue Sky 1988
    H.E.A.V.E.N./A Little Piece Of Heaven
    Crime And Punishment
    The Big Bang
    10,000 Angels
    The Last Page Of History
    Desperate Times

    Wax - A Hundred Thousand In Fresh Notes Sept 1989
    Wherever You Are - Anchors Aweigh

    Alan Parsons Project - Freudiana 1990 + 2 songs
    full album - thanks @footprintsinthesand

    10cc Greatest songs and more (Great Box) 1991

    The Very Best Of 10cc And Godley And Creme 1991

    10cc Meanwhile 1992

    Woman In Love
    Wonderland
    Fill Her Up
    Something Special
    Welcome To Paradise
    The Stars Didn't Show
    Green Eyed Monster
    Charity Begins At Home
    Shine A Light In The Dark
    Don't Break The Promises

    b-side Man With A Mission
    b-sdie Don't
    b-side Lost In Love

    Graham Gouldman interview

    10cc Live In Japan 1993
    the concert


    10cc In concert 1975 1995

    Mirror Mirror 1995

    Yvonnes The One
    Code Of Silence
    Bluebird
    Age Of Consent
    Take This Woman
    The Monkey and the Onion
    Everything Is Not Enough
    Ready To Go Home
    Grow Old With Me
    Margo Wants The Mustard
    Peace In Out Time
    Why Did I Break Your Heart
    Now You're Gone
    I'm Not In Love remix
     
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  25. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sweden
    Why Did I Break Your Heart - easily the best 10cc song since 1978 and Reds In My Bed.
     
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