Peter Gabriel - Best Digital Masterings?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by tlake6659, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Rezident

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    Thanks, better than the Atlantic even? I never see them in bins over here in the States but yes they seem readily available from European sellers.
     
  2. Musicisthebest

    Musicisthebest Exiled Yorkshireman

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    I have the Virgin made in Holland PGCD3 for Melt which sounds good to my ears & which I prefer to the now very expensive SACD. I've not heard the US Geffen version to compare it with but the made in Holland PGCD3 should still be available fairly cheaply if you want to try it for yourself.
     
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  3. Vinyl Fan 1973

    Vinyl Fan 1973 "They're like soup, they're like....nothing bad"

    I have original Europe CD's for So, US and Shaking The Tree comp and they sound fab.
     
  4. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    IV go for the W German Target, should still be relatively inexpensive
    III I have a US DADC, didn't notice anything bad about it so I never went further
    @mdm08033 , Michael is the Nimbus that clear of a winner?
     
  5. mdm08033

    mdm08033 Senior Member

    Let me clarify that. They won't cost too much unless you obsess over very early sun rays or purple swirls.
     
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  6. Yost

    Yost “It’s only impossible until it’s not”

    I currently have the Japanese black triangle CD of 4/IV/Security and it sounds very nice. Much better than 2002 CD I owned before. But I never compared it to early EU or US discs.
     
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  7. mdm08033

    mdm08033 Senior Member

    I can't compare anymore. :sigh: I must have deleted my old American CD from iTunes. :hide: I must have done that for a good reason.
     
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  8. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Well phooey on you then :laugh:
    I'll stick with my DADC, maybe someone can post a sample of the Nimbus
     
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  9. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    The SACD (DSD layer) for III has inverted polarity compared with every other mastering. It sounds better when reversed. Really, try it if you can. Should be the same for the standard CD remaster.

    My favourite versions are now the Hi-Res downloads that came as a bonus with the vinyl remasters from last year. They are different from the SACDs (although having similar DR values) and IMO, better.

    I must say that previously my favourite digital versions were the SACDs (DSD layers only) for I, II, III (after polarity correction), and Us; and the Target CD for IV.
     
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  10. mdm08033

    mdm08033 Senior Member

    I'll try to listen to III since I still have the redbook remaster losslessly on iTunes.

    Happy listening, Michael
     
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  11. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    I have edited my post for precisions.

    Happy listening! :)
     
  12. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    According to an old post of mine:

    "For III (Melt), we know the V/C [meaning the Nimbus] is peak limited whereas the Geffen isn't."
     
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  13. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Thanks Thomas, appreciated :cheers:
     
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  14. Glen Rasmusssen

    Glen Rasmusssen Active Member

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    Peter Gabriel: Secret World - Live [Blu-ray] is quite good.
     
  15. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Rezident

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    Ok I got my order in for III V/C before @Plan9 said it was peak limited! Also a V/C for II and the Target for IV all pretty cheap so I hope to sort this out soon. Thanks for the help.
     
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  16. tlake6659

    tlake6659 Senior Member Thread Starter

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    As the original starter of the thread, I have started doing my own comparisons.

    For the car album, I like the original Atco CD the best. The original V/C disc sounded a bit bright and I wasn't a fan of the remasters or the SACD.

    For II, I like the original Atlantic CD the best.

    That's all for now. I will write back after more comparisons are done.
     
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  17. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    I have no issues with the I US SRC Atco, preferred it also over the SACD as well...
     
  18. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    Looking at the Atco entries at Discogs for PG1 the running time for ‘Waiting for the Big One’ is given as 7.26 mins whereas the UK / Europe VC disc is 7.13 mins (just played VC to verify).
    https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Gabriel-Peter-Gabriel/release/1602106
    https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Gabriel-Peter-Gabriel/release/5001952

    Understanding that it leads into ‘Down the Dolce Vita’ which is attributed with similar timings also ‘Here Comes the Flood’,
    is the Atco version really 13 seconds longer and so possibly a different mix to the VC disc?

    Not enough extra for ‘Slowburn’ to be the discrepancy it seems;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gabriel_(1977_album)
     
  19. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    No,
    7:14 on my US Atco
    They took the word of the label print which is from the LP track list
     
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  20. konoyaro

    konoyaro Forum Resident

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    I sure wish they had made the Hi-Res downloads available for purchase separately instead of an exclusive bundle with the vinyl. Pity...

     
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  21. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    I think they will eventually since Itunes has the lossy
     
  22. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

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    I hope so too. It would be silly to not let more people hear it in lossless.
     
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  23. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    No kidding. I have no plans on grabbing any more of the Lp's but curiosity has got me on a couple I would probably purchase
     
  24. prowler5150

    prowler5150 Forum Resident

    Several retailers are showing new vinyl releases for 2/7 or 2/10. Any rumors of the hi-res downloads being made available for purchase separately at the same time?
     
  25. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Consider the high res downloads for your Pono. I picked up the most recent round of 45rpm releases primarily to get those downloads!
     
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